Silent Majority
04 Jul 09 , 03:10 AM
My reply to MOE’s email dated 03.07.09:
Dear Mr Yong
Thank you for your 3rd July, 2009 reply to my email.
I am heartened to hear of MOE's stand and I have seen the latest news that came out of MOE only recently.
These are my comments:
1) On the need of advising how a student should protect oneself in the event of heightened libido, I agree that it should be taught but, I hope that MOE will consider emphasizing the prevention aspect frequently and regularly in such a way as to drum it in the head of our young.
2) It is not without thought that I say this because, if we were to leave it to one chapter and that's it, it's as good as "preaching" to the wall.
3) I would like to state again as in my previous email that these days students tend to spend more time in school and they are not like students of yesteryear. Now, they are so exposed to a wide spectrum of the media daily and also do much school work on the computer such that it is hardly surprising that most parents are unable to influence them as before.
4) Schools being centres of learning, should be the primary source of moral learning and should be part of the yearly general curriculum from day one of school life of a child and there should be weightage applied for the course. Otherwise, the course subject will be considered redundant and a waste of time in the long run by the students. This is important in terms of nation building and maintenance of moral standards.
5) As the recent AWARE saga has shown us all, attempts were made to covertly disseminate and inculcate acceptance of a moral concept not compatible with the mainstream to our young through our educational system. From this incident, MOE should realize the effectiveness of regular moral & civic education. It is regrettable that we parents are now considered supplemental to the teachers in this respect.
6) Schools should be adequately funded so as to ensure this program achieves the required results at the end of a child's school going years.
7) It is hoped that sex education and other programs are properly scrutinized prior to offering to the students.
8) It is also hoped that school teachers and instructors of sex education and other programs are regularly scrutinized thoroughly and also in the way they teach the subjects. This is no nonsensical talk on my part but reflecting a known danger inherent as the 'educators' themselves may be the "wolfe in sheep's clothing" themselves.
9) As parents, seeing so many young ones displaying LBGT tendencies so openly in our schools is quite alarming and your comment and poxition on this aspect is NOT really assuring but rather quite disquieting to us. Therefore, I hope MOE will look further into this matter and provide more comprehensive support to the school counselors in lessening these tendencies and preferences.
10) Finally, I wish that MOE will prevent future "infiltration" of deviant views inconsistent with the mainstream by exhorting Principals and teachers to be vigilant when dispensing their lessons or advice to our young.
Thank you.
Music Playlist 1
Saturday, July 4, 2009
Remarks by Education Minister on Sexuality Education Programme in Schools
REACH BLOG:
Silent Majority
04 Jul 09 , 03:09 AM
Reply from MOE dated 03.07.09 to my email:
We refer to our interim email reply to you dated 15 June 2009.
School Sexuality Education
Minister, in his briefing to the media on 21 May 2009, reiterated the importance of sexuality education. He emphasised that MOE’s sexuality education programme respects the primary role of parents, reflects social norms and reinforces family values which uphold the conventional family as the basic building block of our society. The Ministry of Education (MOE) will be taking steps to enhance and strengthen the delivery of sexuality education in schools.
For full details on Minister’s remarks on sexuality education programmes in schools, you can refer to our website at: http://www.moe.gov.sg/. Details on MOE’s sexuality education programme can be found at the following link:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2009/05/information-sheet-on-ministry.php.
School Counselling
Please allow us to share that teachers interact regularly with students and are able to identify and guide those students who require help in their studies. Teachers may refer to school counsellors those students who require support to overcome social and emotional problems that have hindered their progress in school. Parents who have concerns about their children's school performance or social and emotional well-being may want to discuss them with the relevant teachers or school counsellor. Teacher, counsellor and parent can then collaborate to support the student.
Silent Majority
04 Jul 09 , 03:09 AM
Reply from MOE dated 03.07.09 to my email:
We refer to our interim email reply to you dated 15 June 2009.
School Sexuality Education
Minister, in his briefing to the media on 21 May 2009, reiterated the importance of sexuality education. He emphasised that MOE’s sexuality education programme respects the primary role of parents, reflects social norms and reinforces family values which uphold the conventional family as the basic building block of our society. The Ministry of Education (MOE) will be taking steps to enhance and strengthen the delivery of sexuality education in schools.
For full details on Minister’s remarks on sexuality education programmes in schools, you can refer to our website at: http://www.moe.gov.sg/. Details on MOE’s sexuality education programme can be found at the following link:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/media/press/2009/05/information-sheet-on-ministry.php.
School Counselling
Please allow us to share that teachers interact regularly with students and are able to identify and guide those students who require help in their studies. Teachers may refer to school counsellors those students who require support to overcome social and emotional problems that have hindered their progress in school. Parents who have concerns about their children's school performance or social and emotional well-being may want to discuss them with the relevant teachers or school counsellor. Teacher, counsellor and parent can then collaborate to support the student.
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
REACH - Diversity Of Views
a good seed
28 Jun 09 , 11:37 AM
Act I (Scene 1) - THE DAY (LUCKILY) THE FENCE DID NOT COME DOWN
Time : The Past; some time in 2007
Place: "Baaliament"; the Main Shed by a riverside on a beautiful tropical island called "Sheepgapore" somewhere above the Equator (One Degree Long. Nineteen Degree Lat.)
The Participants: Baaliament gathering of Good Shepherds (guardians of sheepgapore's population of sheep); unfortunately with members of the Jackals And Wolves Society (JAWS) masquerating as shepherds.
HEAD SHEPHERD: "We are gathered here to formulate plans to keep improving the welfare of our herd in our care. It's sooooooo eeeeeasy controlling the herd as they are all sooooooo timid - always leaving us shepherds to make decisions all the time.
Sadly, we shepherds do make mistakes at times owing to some of our inexperience members asleep on the job or delegating some other shepherds (JAWS) in reality to take charge of the herd. Of course, we know that JAWS exists in our midst and also amongst the herd when they are actually wolves in sheep's clothing).
We must not admit to the herd nor apologise for our inaccurate policies and must not show humility as shepherds are considered soooooo ggggreat less we weaken our hold on the herd. (chorus; from the members present "hear, hear; hear, hear")
Also, we have problems looking for fresh pastures; for newwater for the herd as the current grazing areas are about barren and the search has got to be relentless.
Planning new fighting techniques for our guard dogs in the protection of the herd from dangers lurking amongst them; especially preventing JAWS infiltrating, capturing and taking over control of Baaliament.
"The infiltrated JAWS in Baaliament (disguised as shepherds) have even proposed that we good shepherds all agree to take the fence down so that the herd can roam easily across the wide expanse of the island in search of more clean water and greener pastures.
These JAWS members are like cunning serpents. We good shepherds must stay guarded at all times to prevent their taking over control of Baaliament.
Almost all of our wise and good shepherds in Baaliament are against the idea of taking the fence down as this can also let in the wolf pack waiting outside the fencing; patiently with salivating jaws; ever ready to pounce on each and every one of the innocent herd - the very young and old.
The good shepherds in Baaliament argued that if the fence is taken down; the wolf pack would then make short work of the whole herd as soon as the fence is taken down and a bloody massacre of the herd and even the good shepherds, is inevitable.
Therefore, we good shepherds have a sacred duty in protecting our herd and maintain a constant vigilance all through the years to rid JAWS of their evil intentions for the welfare of the whole herd on our beautiful island of Sheepgapore.
GOOD SHEPHERDS, REMEMBER ALWAYS:
"DON'T EVER TAKE A FENCE DOWN UNTIL YOU KNOW THE REASON IT WAS PUT UP".
Good Shepherds (all in unison "hear hear; hear hear") and thus, the meeting ended.
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ACT I (SCENE 2) - THE MEETING - IT'S CALLED MUTATION
The Time : The Present
The Place: A deep underground secret lair on a famous island resort, just above the Equator (One Degree Ninety)
The Participants: Gathering of the Jackals and Wolves Society (JAWS)
(Above the din of howling, pawing, jumping up and down and banging on the walls of the lair):
JAWS' Secretary: "Order, order. Stop howling, jumping and banging. This is our JAWS' meeting, not the AWARE's EGM (met with more howling, jumping and banging on the lair' walls, this time even more deafening).
Meeting has now started to report our pack's progress since JAWS got clobbered in the 2007 Baaliament; cancellation of JAWS' subsequent beach party when we were exposed by some very smart sheep who complained to their good shepherds of our evil intentions and the now infamous AWARE saga.
The good news is we, JAWS at our recent clandestine meeting, decided to change tactic (yes, IT'S CALLED MUTATION)immediately and fooled everyone, yes, even fooling the good shepherds and their guard dogs by holding a so-called family fun party gathering on the island resort, oooooops I mean our lair (more howling, pawing and banging on walls..) with free entrance, plenty of fresh green grass with lots and lots of clean water.
Fortunately these sheep (young and old), the good shepherds and their guard dogs never stop to think for an instant that all these free facilities are big moneys paid and solely funded by members of JAWS. It was worth every $ spent by our JAWS society; just to smell and lick the nice clean coats of the young sheep and devouring some of them when they were too intoxicated to resist (with our hoard of booze) after the good shepherds and their guard dogs left the party early.
We JAWS believe if the means justify the ends, every $ spent was worth it (more howling and banging on walls..)The whole sheep on the resort had forgotton what their MM Good Shepherd had repeatedly advised:
"NOTHING IS FOR FREE IN THE WORLD".
28 Jun 09 , 11:37 AM
Act I (Scene 1) - THE DAY (LUCKILY) THE FENCE DID NOT COME DOWN
Time : The Past; some time in 2007
Place: "Baaliament"; the Main Shed by a riverside on a beautiful tropical island called "Sheepgapore" somewhere above the Equator (One Degree Long. Nineteen Degree Lat.)
The Participants: Baaliament gathering of Good Shepherds (guardians of sheepgapore's population of sheep); unfortunately with members of the Jackals And Wolves Society (JAWS) masquerating as shepherds.
HEAD SHEPHERD: "We are gathered here to formulate plans to keep improving the welfare of our herd in our care. It's sooooooo eeeeeasy controlling the herd as they are all sooooooo timid - always leaving us shepherds to make decisions all the time.
Sadly, we shepherds do make mistakes at times owing to some of our inexperience members asleep on the job or delegating some other shepherds (JAWS) in reality to take charge of the herd. Of course, we know that JAWS exists in our midst and also amongst the herd when they are actually wolves in sheep's clothing).
We must not admit to the herd nor apologise for our inaccurate policies and must not show humility as shepherds are considered soooooo ggggreat less we weaken our hold on the herd. (chorus; from the members present "hear, hear; hear, hear")
Also, we have problems looking for fresh pastures; for newwater for the herd as the current grazing areas are about barren and the search has got to be relentless.
Planning new fighting techniques for our guard dogs in the protection of the herd from dangers lurking amongst them; especially preventing JAWS infiltrating, capturing and taking over control of Baaliament.
"The infiltrated JAWS in Baaliament (disguised as shepherds) have even proposed that we good shepherds all agree to take the fence down so that the herd can roam easily across the wide expanse of the island in search of more clean water and greener pastures.
These JAWS members are like cunning serpents. We good shepherds must stay guarded at all times to prevent their taking over control of Baaliament.
Almost all of our wise and good shepherds in Baaliament are against the idea of taking the fence down as this can also let in the wolf pack waiting outside the fencing; patiently with salivating jaws; ever ready to pounce on each and every one of the innocent herd - the very young and old.
The good shepherds in Baaliament argued that if the fence is taken down; the wolf pack would then make short work of the whole herd as soon as the fence is taken down and a bloody massacre of the herd and even the good shepherds, is inevitable.
Therefore, we good shepherds have a sacred duty in protecting our herd and maintain a constant vigilance all through the years to rid JAWS of their evil intentions for the welfare of the whole herd on our beautiful island of Sheepgapore.
GOOD SHEPHERDS, REMEMBER ALWAYS:
"DON'T EVER TAKE A FENCE DOWN UNTIL YOU KNOW THE REASON IT WAS PUT UP".
Good Shepherds (all in unison "hear hear; hear hear") and thus, the meeting ended.
-------------------------------
ACT I (SCENE 2) - THE MEETING - IT'S CALLED MUTATION
The Time : The Present
The Place: A deep underground secret lair on a famous island resort, just above the Equator (One Degree Ninety)
The Participants: Gathering of the Jackals and Wolves Society (JAWS)
(Above the din of howling, pawing, jumping up and down and banging on the walls of the lair):
JAWS' Secretary: "Order, order. Stop howling, jumping and banging. This is our JAWS' meeting, not the AWARE's EGM (met with more howling, jumping and banging on the lair' walls, this time even more deafening).
Meeting has now started to report our pack's progress since JAWS got clobbered in the 2007 Baaliament; cancellation of JAWS' subsequent beach party when we were exposed by some very smart sheep who complained to their good shepherds of our evil intentions and the now infamous AWARE saga.
The good news is we, JAWS at our recent clandestine meeting, decided to change tactic (yes, IT'S CALLED MUTATION)immediately and fooled everyone, yes, even fooling the good shepherds and their guard dogs by holding a so-called family fun party gathering on the island resort, oooooops I mean our lair (more howling, pawing and banging on walls..) with free entrance, plenty of fresh green grass with lots and lots of clean water.
Fortunately these sheep (young and old), the good shepherds and their guard dogs never stop to think for an instant that all these free facilities are big moneys paid and solely funded by members of JAWS. It was worth every $ spent by our JAWS society; just to smell and lick the nice clean coats of the young sheep and devouring some of them when they were too intoxicated to resist (with our hoard of booze) after the good shepherds and their guard dogs left the party early.
We JAWS believe if the means justify the ends, every $ spent was worth it (more howling and banging on walls..)The whole sheep on the resort had forgotton what their MM Good Shepherd had repeatedly advised:
"NOTHING IS FOR FREE IN THE WORLD".
Topic - Media Objectivity
Hi All,
This is was a posting from LIFE Correspondent John Lui "Get Your Values Out of my face". Although Lui's article was not printed on the paper, it was posted on the ST Online Blog under ST LIFE CORRESPONDENT.
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John Lui
Life! Correspondent
Get your values out of my face
May 08, 2009 Friday, 11:42 AM
John Lui shares his views on the Aware saga.
________________________________________
"GET your values out of my elite uncaring face"
If there is one lesson that the Aware saga has proven yet again, it is that parents have an inflated sense of their own worth in society.
I am not married and do not have children and it has irritated me for a long time that mothers and fathers like to excuse their incredibly selfish behaviour by saying "it's for the sake of the kids".
The group of pro-values parents who object to a factual and comprehensive sex eduation programme should be reminded that their little darlings belong to the same society that I do.
If these little angels as a result of ignorant fornication foist little bundles of joy on society and its taxpayers, I for one will be more than a little displeased.
In my eyes, having teenagers with fully functioning reproductive organs and not being able to control them is similar to owning a pit bull with big teeth and not putting it on a leash. Both creatures are hazards to other people.
If you tell me that your pit bull's fondness for sinking his fangs into people is "a private matter between a dog and his owner", I would tell you to grow a brain, you selfish, ignorant fool.
And if you campaign to keep leashes off dangerous dogs, then you are more than a fool, you are a menace to society.
Your right to keep your pet unrestrained ends where the skin of my leg begins.
Your rights to keep your child ignorant about sex ends where my tax dollars start to fund public medical programmes for STDs, juvenile delinquency schemes and prisons for people screwed up by being born to poor teenage mothers.
In the pages of The Straits Times over the last four weeks, we have seen upper-middle class professionals, driven by private religious impulses, strive to change public education policy.
People from well-off, educated families are the ones who are statistically the least likely to suffer from the problems of teen pregnancy and STDs. Yet they feel driven to restrict sex education for the people who need it most: Teens from lower-income families.
But it makes sense. After all, the harm that these well-meaning people could cause will never affect them directly. They get to feel holy but will never experience the misery born of their actions.
Singapore was born of pragmatism. Legalised prostitution protects women in the sex trade from pimps. No-one likes prostitution but greater misery comes from driving it underground.
Teenage sexual behaviour is a public health issue, like swine flu or dengue fever.
The next time someone tells me that sex education is a private matter between a parent and his child, I will tell him that in return, I will make open containers filled with stagnant water a private matter between myself and the stuff I keep on my property.
This is was a posting from LIFE Correspondent John Lui "Get Your Values Out of my face". Although Lui's article was not printed on the paper, it was posted on the ST Online Blog under ST LIFE CORRESPONDENT.
-------------------------------------
John Lui
Life! Correspondent
Get your values out of my face
May 08, 2009 Friday, 11:42 AM
John Lui shares his views on the Aware saga.
________________________________________
"GET your values out of my elite uncaring face"
If there is one lesson that the Aware saga has proven yet again, it is that parents have an inflated sense of their own worth in society.
I am not married and do not have children and it has irritated me for a long time that mothers and fathers like to excuse their incredibly selfish behaviour by saying "it's for the sake of the kids".
The group of pro-values parents who object to a factual and comprehensive sex eduation programme should be reminded that their little darlings belong to the same society that I do.
If these little angels as a result of ignorant fornication foist little bundles of joy on society and its taxpayers, I for one will be more than a little displeased.
In my eyes, having teenagers with fully functioning reproductive organs and not being able to control them is similar to owning a pit bull with big teeth and not putting it on a leash. Both creatures are hazards to other people.
If you tell me that your pit bull's fondness for sinking his fangs into people is "a private matter between a dog and his owner", I would tell you to grow a brain, you selfish, ignorant fool.
And if you campaign to keep leashes off dangerous dogs, then you are more than a fool, you are a menace to society.
Your right to keep your pet unrestrained ends where the skin of my leg begins.
Your rights to keep your child ignorant about sex ends where my tax dollars start to fund public medical programmes for STDs, juvenile delinquency schemes and prisons for people screwed up by being born to poor teenage mothers.
In the pages of The Straits Times over the last four weeks, we have seen upper-middle class professionals, driven by private religious impulses, strive to change public education policy.
People from well-off, educated families are the ones who are statistically the least likely to suffer from the problems of teen pregnancy and STDs. Yet they feel driven to restrict sex education for the people who need it most: Teens from lower-income families.
But it makes sense. After all, the harm that these well-meaning people could cause will never affect them directly. They get to feel holy but will never experience the misery born of their actions.
Singapore was born of pragmatism. Legalised prostitution protects women in the sex trade from pimps. No-one likes prostitution but greater misery comes from driving it underground.
Teenage sexual behaviour is a public health issue, like swine flu or dengue fever.
The next time someone tells me that sex education is a private matter between a parent and his child, I will tell him that in return, I will make open containers filled with stagnant water a private matter between myself and the stuff I keep on my property.
Topic - Media Objectivity
AWARE’s CHARTER OF COMPASSION
LEE
16 Jun 09 , 09:57 AM
Hello everyone
Re: Founding fathers of Aware’s New Charter for Compassion mentioned in ST article on June 14.
This is a SUMMARY ALL 4 persons mentioned in ST article on Aware’s New Charter of Compassion. I have done more homework on Mr. Alvin Tan and Mr. Jolovan Wham, the other 2 persons (Karen Armstrong & Tan Chong Kee) .
I quote from the ST article:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_390091.html
""Ms Yap hopes to establish a Singapore chapter of the Charter, started by British author and religious scholar (1) Karen Armstrong.
Its other founding members include San Francisco-based (2) Dr Tan Chong Kee, who founded the now defunct online forum, Sintercom;
(3) Mr Alvin Tan, artistic director of theatre group The Necessary Stage; and(4) Mr Jolovan Wham, executive director of transient worker help group, Humanitarian Organisation for Migration Economics (Home).
Ms Armstrong, who wrote seminal works like A History Of God and The Battle For God, launched the charter to promote a more harmonious world through compassion - a core principle in every religion."" UNQUOTE
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1) My research on Karen Armstrong
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-God-Karen-Armstrong/dp/0345391691/ref=bxgy_cc_b_text_a/177-7447274-8908124
Quote: Former nun and A History of God iconoclast Armstrong delves deeply once again into the often violent histories of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, this time exploring the rise of fundamentalist enclaves in all three religions. . Even Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, and Confucianism have developed fundamentalist factions. Reacting to a technologically driven world with liberal Western values, fundamentalists have not only increased in numbers…. Armstrong sensitively recognizes one of fundamentalism's great ironies: though they ostensibly seek to restore a displaced, mythical spiritual foundation, fundamentalists often re-establish that foundation using profoundly secular, pseudo-scientific means ("creation science" is a prime example)
Reacting to a technologically driven world with liberal Western values, fundamentalists have not only increased in numbers, they have become more desperate, claims Armstrong, who points to the Oklahoma City bombing, violent anti-abortion crusades, and the assassination of President Yitzak Rabin as evidence of dangerous extremes. "
Unquote.
2) About Tan Chong Kee
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2005/08/01/1464.tan-chong-kee
People
1 Aug 2005
tan chong kee
by Sylvia Tan
Fridae speaks to Dr Tan Chong Kee, Singapore's best-known figure in civil society activism, about his upcoming talk on Aug 2 which challenges the notion that same-sex love is contrary to Asian values. Currently the Chairman of non-profit theatre company, The Necessary Stage, the 42-year-old also holds a Ph.D. in Chinese Literature from Stanford University in the United States.
Tan Chong Kee…
'Same-Sex Love In Classical Chinese Literature' (in Mandarin) will be held on .. pm as part of IndigNation, Singapore's first Pride month. The series of events is held in "response to the unreasonable ban on parties for gays and lesbians and heavy censorship of publications serving this community."
3) About Mr. Alvin Tan of Necessary Stage:
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2003/07/02/839.spores-necessary-stage-to-present-mardi-gras
Article: Entertainment - 2 Jul 2003
Spore's necessary stage to present 'mardi gras' by News Editor
Singapore theatre company, The Necessary Stage, will stage “MARDI GRAS”, a play about A GROUP OF PEOPLE WANTING TO ORGANISE SINGAPORE’S FIRST PRIDE PARADE. Unquote. (note: Go to the link. look at the photo “we are here..we are queen…we’re..so in trouble)
4) About Mr. Jolovan Wham - he participated in a forum for human rights. However, it seems he spoke on issues of the homeless and migrant workers. But take a look at the other speakers in this forum.
http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleAseanHRForum.html
SINGAPORE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Singaporeans come together to form group for human rights
24 Sep 07
At a forum held at the Allson Hotel yesterday, a group of Singaporeans came together to push for human rights in Singapore.
Moderator MR ALEX AU, WRITER AND GAY RIGHTS ACTIVIST, kicked off the session by explaining how ASEAN had agreed to include a segment in its charter that promised to respect the rights of its peoples. This came about after years of engagement with civil societies within and outside of ASEAN. UNQUOTE
Actually I was waiting and hoping for someone to do the “research” on Alvin Tan and Jolovan Wham since I already covered Armstrong and Tan Chong Kee. This has been very time consuming for me so I hope you will not let the efforts go to waste.
I am in the midst of writing my letter to the PM, Ministers, MPs, MUIS and MOE. Remember I AM BUT ONE VOICE. So everyone, PLEASE DO YOUR PART PEACEFULLY by writing, forwarding and informing the Ministries and the public.
My advice to everyone is to be more investigative and be pro active when you read something of concern. Find out more through the Net so there are facts and evidence that can be substantiated and share it with us. No need to get all panicky, just share what you have and the facts will speak for themselves. Besides waiting for someone to organize a society, I encourage you to investigate further on all articles mentioned in ST and post it here. That’s more fruitful than waiting for ST to “change”..
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LEE
17 Jun 09 , 09:24 AM
……ST insists they have been impartial and professional. So, if ST were to print future articles on Aware’s charter of compassion, will they use their sensational headlines only to highlight what they wish the public to read and dismiss the other important facts the way they did with the CSE issue? Are they going to have breathless coverage and inform the public that these founding members are pluralists who think that any religious citizens speaking up against moral values are denounced as religious fundamentalists? Are they going to splash that poster on the “Mardi Gras” play that was put up Necessary stage? That poster with a practically naked gay with captions “We’re here, we’re Queen, We’re …soooo in trouble”? http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2003/07/02/839.spores-necessary-stage-to-present-mardi-gras
(Those who don’t know what I am talking about, please go to my posting on June 16 09.57am regarding the background of the 4 founding members of Aware’s charter of compassion.)
Will ST splash that gay mardi gras poster in the paper the way they splashed Dr. Thio’s photo? I have many friends who told me Dr THIO’S PHOTO IN THE ST WAS LARGER THAN MAS SELAMAT OR ANY PHOTO OF OUR PRIME MINISTER. Unfortunately I missed that.
True Objectivity means the public must have ALL the necessary knowledge about an issue before they can discern for themselves. The only way for adults to “filter” the information is when they are provided with all the facts.
….So don’t worry “CW”, if there is no hidden agenda or disguise behind Aware’s new charter of compassion, then individuals like yourself should have nothing to worry about all this information being shared to the public. If this charter isn’t another disguise by Aware for gay activists to push their agenda onto mainstream society, then you have nothing to be concerned about.. Just let the public have all the necessary facts about the 4 founding members of Aware’s charter of compassion so they can decide for themselves.
I stated in my earlier posting 16 June 10.02am that everyone is entitled to share their views in our secular state. Aware shares theirs and so should we. Fair and square. But we object when the so called All Inclusives say their views can be included in secular space but ours has to be excluded. We object to our national news media excluding the concerns of parents and citizens until we had to petition, write online letters, mass emails to get MOE to investigate Aware’s Controversial CSE Trainer’s Manual. If ST had really been impartial, all these “actions” would not have been necessary. We have now lost the confidence that ST will be impartial when reporting about activities that deal with moral issues.
Was there a need for Aware to be so secretive and adamant about their confidential manual if there was nothing wrong? So, if there is no hidden agenda or disguise behind Aware’s New Charter of Compassion, then there’s nothing wrong in SHARING this information on public space.
Now concerned parents and citizens have to do more investigative work. I save myself close to $320 on one year’s subscription of ST’s print edition. Better to give this to the more needy.
LEE
16 Jun 09 , 09:57 AM
Hello everyone
Re: Founding fathers of Aware’s New Charter for Compassion mentioned in ST article on June 14.
This is a SUMMARY ALL 4 persons mentioned in ST article on Aware’s New Charter of Compassion. I have done more homework on Mr. Alvin Tan and Mr. Jolovan Wham, the other 2 persons (Karen Armstrong & Tan Chong Kee) .
I quote from the ST article:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_390091.html
""Ms Yap hopes to establish a Singapore chapter of the Charter, started by British author and religious scholar (1) Karen Armstrong.
Its other founding members include San Francisco-based (2) Dr Tan Chong Kee, who founded the now defunct online forum, Sintercom;
(3) Mr Alvin Tan, artistic director of theatre group The Necessary Stage; and(4) Mr Jolovan Wham, executive director of transient worker help group, Humanitarian Organisation for Migration Economics (Home).
Ms Armstrong, who wrote seminal works like A History Of God and The Battle For God, launched the charter to promote a more harmonious world through compassion - a core principle in every religion."" UNQUOTE
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1) My research on Karen Armstrong
http://www.amazon.com/Battle-God-Karen-Armstrong/dp/0345391691/ref=bxgy_cc_b_text_a/177-7447274-8908124
Quote: Former nun and A History of God iconoclast Armstrong delves deeply once again into the often violent histories of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, this time exploring the rise of fundamentalist enclaves in all three religions. . Even Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, and Confucianism have developed fundamentalist factions. Reacting to a technologically driven world with liberal Western values, fundamentalists have not only increased in numbers…. Armstrong sensitively recognizes one of fundamentalism's great ironies: though they ostensibly seek to restore a displaced, mythical spiritual foundation, fundamentalists often re-establish that foundation using profoundly secular, pseudo-scientific means ("creation science" is a prime example)
Reacting to a technologically driven world with liberal Western values, fundamentalists have not only increased in numbers, they have become more desperate, claims Armstrong, who points to the Oklahoma City bombing, violent anti-abortion crusades, and the assassination of President Yitzak Rabin as evidence of dangerous extremes. "
Unquote.
2) About Tan Chong Kee
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2005/08/01/1464.tan-chong-kee
People
1 Aug 2005
tan chong kee
by Sylvia Tan
Fridae speaks to Dr Tan Chong Kee, Singapore's best-known figure in civil society activism, about his upcoming talk on Aug 2 which challenges the notion that same-sex love is contrary to Asian values. Currently the Chairman of non-profit theatre company, The Necessary Stage, the 42-year-old also holds a Ph.D. in Chinese Literature from Stanford University in the United States.
Tan Chong Kee…
'Same-Sex Love In Classical Chinese Literature' (in Mandarin) will be held on .. pm as part of IndigNation, Singapore's first Pride month. The series of events is held in "response to the unreasonable ban on parties for gays and lesbians and heavy censorship of publications serving this community."
3) About Mr. Alvin Tan of Necessary Stage:
http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2003/07/02/839.spores-necessary-stage-to-present-mardi-gras
Article: Entertainment - 2 Jul 2003
Spore's necessary stage to present 'mardi gras' by News Editor
Singapore theatre company, The Necessary Stage, will stage “MARDI GRAS”, a play about A GROUP OF PEOPLE WANTING TO ORGANISE SINGAPORE’S FIRST PRIDE PARADE. Unquote. (note: Go to the link. look at the photo “we are here..we are queen…we’re..so in trouble)
4) About Mr. Jolovan Wham - he participated in a forum for human rights. However, it seems he spoke on issues of the homeless and migrant workers. But take a look at the other speakers in this forum.
http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleAseanHRForum.html
SINGAPORE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Singaporeans come together to form group for human rights
24 Sep 07
At a forum held at the Allson Hotel yesterday, a group of Singaporeans came together to push for human rights in Singapore.
Moderator MR ALEX AU, WRITER AND GAY RIGHTS ACTIVIST, kicked off the session by explaining how ASEAN had agreed to include a segment in its charter that promised to respect the rights of its peoples. This came about after years of engagement with civil societies within and outside of ASEAN. UNQUOTE
Actually I was waiting and hoping for someone to do the “research” on Alvin Tan and Jolovan Wham since I already covered Armstrong and Tan Chong Kee. This has been very time consuming for me so I hope you will not let the efforts go to waste.
I am in the midst of writing my letter to the PM, Ministers, MPs, MUIS and MOE. Remember I AM BUT ONE VOICE. So everyone, PLEASE DO YOUR PART PEACEFULLY by writing, forwarding and informing the Ministries and the public.
My advice to everyone is to be more investigative and be pro active when you read something of concern. Find out more through the Net so there are facts and evidence that can be substantiated and share it with us. No need to get all panicky, just share what you have and the facts will speak for themselves. Besides waiting for someone to organize a society, I encourage you to investigate further on all articles mentioned in ST and post it here. That’s more fruitful than waiting for ST to “change”..
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LEE
17 Jun 09 , 09:24 AM
……ST insists they have been impartial and professional. So, if ST were to print future articles on Aware’s charter of compassion, will they use their sensational headlines only to highlight what they wish the public to read and dismiss the other important facts the way they did with the CSE issue? Are they going to have breathless coverage and inform the public that these founding members are pluralists who think that any religious citizens speaking up against moral values are denounced as religious fundamentalists? Are they going to splash that poster on the “Mardi Gras” play that was put up Necessary stage? That poster with a practically naked gay with captions “We’re here, we’re Queen, We’re …soooo in trouble”? http://www.fridae.com/newsfeatures/2003/07/02/839.spores-necessary-stage-to-present-mardi-gras
(Those who don’t know what I am talking about, please go to my posting on June 16 09.57am regarding the background of the 4 founding members of Aware’s charter of compassion.)
Will ST splash that gay mardi gras poster in the paper the way they splashed Dr. Thio’s photo? I have many friends who told me Dr THIO’S PHOTO IN THE ST WAS LARGER THAN MAS SELAMAT OR ANY PHOTO OF OUR PRIME MINISTER. Unfortunately I missed that.
True Objectivity means the public must have ALL the necessary knowledge about an issue before they can discern for themselves. The only way for adults to “filter” the information is when they are provided with all the facts.
….So don’t worry “CW”, if there is no hidden agenda or disguise behind Aware’s new charter of compassion, then individuals like yourself should have nothing to worry about all this information being shared to the public. If this charter isn’t another disguise by Aware for gay activists to push their agenda onto mainstream society, then you have nothing to be concerned about.. Just let the public have all the necessary facts about the 4 founding members of Aware’s charter of compassion so they can decide for themselves.
I stated in my earlier posting 16 June 10.02am that everyone is entitled to share their views in our secular state. Aware shares theirs and so should we. Fair and square. But we object when the so called All Inclusives say their views can be included in secular space but ours has to be excluded. We object to our national news media excluding the concerns of parents and citizens until we had to petition, write online letters, mass emails to get MOE to investigate Aware’s Controversial CSE Trainer’s Manual. If ST had really been impartial, all these “actions” would not have been necessary. We have now lost the confidence that ST will be impartial when reporting about activities that deal with moral issues.
Was there a need for Aware to be so secretive and adamant about their confidential manual if there was nothing wrong? So, if there is no hidden agenda or disguise behind Aware’s New Charter of Compassion, then there’s nothing wrong in SHARING this information on public space.
Now concerned parents and citizens have to do more investigative work. I save myself close to $320 on one year’s subscription of ST’s print edition. Better to give this to the more needy.
Monday, June 29, 2009
REACH BLOG - 29 Jun 09 , 22:40 PM
Silent Majority
“CW”,
Although you posted your comments to LEE, I have some very strong views of my own and decided to comment on what you said. I hope others will follow suit since this is public space."
In your postings on 28 Jun 09 , 14:44 PM you were asked:
1) What are your PERSONAL views about constant acts of anal sex in homosexuality?
You replied: “I don’t have a personal view or stand on it as I have not been a participant in anal sex. However, I think the decision is private to the individuals. Mind you, anal sex is not restrictive to homosexuality. Heterosexuals can choose to do so. So long as both are consenting adults, and both register the risks and are willing to be responsible for their actions, I think it is ok.
Answer:
For a person who showed so much conviction about LBGT, it is unlike you to have no personal view or stand. It’s like telling another adult, I will have to participate in killing a person before I make a stand on my personal views.
You either agree it is “okay” or “not okay” to have “anal sex”. You are conveniently sitting on the fence with your reply.
Since you brought up about “Consenting”, Homosexuality has always been around Asian culture. Nobody in this thread denies that. NO issue here.
You also said “Anal sex, is a private act, thus everybody will come to their own decision on it. I will not put it to the subject of morality, as everybody will have different degrees of belief and will make their own decisions on the matter.”
Answer:
Ha! CW! I completely agree with you that it is private, as Asian society in general has always seen it that way for hundreds of years. Good that you agree it is a PRIVATE ACT. Also, NO issue here.
The core issue is whether society in general agrees with it and they do NOT. Society in general frowns upon it. But, unfortunately, most in society are passive on-lookers. As long as LBGT do not cross the line. That is fine with society. No argument from you can support it.
Even in USA, there is a swelling of public opinion against it. The Europeans, they are the root of many ills in this world. Mostly, faults of old world politics and still playing the same game.
INDEED, it IS All About MORALITY. No society can survive without upholding their morality. That is why when young, your parents teach you not to kill etc. Didn’t you learnt of ancient Roman society where Morality degenerated into permissive actions like debauchery, anal sex, etc, Society will fail in the long run.
Imagine, with your meaning of freedom of choice, and independence of action, next you’ll see the father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter.
This is individual independence you are proscribing as your comments goes. That is what will happen when society is bereft of a set of Moral values/ Core values to uphold. As in Holland, you can’t stop your daughter from becoming a prostitute.
Truly, do you think that “daughter” being an individual, wants to be a prostitute? And if you try me with “Freedom of choice” that means you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. A typical mantra of those who supports LBGT. I have worked with them and I tell you this, none wants to be one but only due to economic necessities.
You are clearly either a consenting partner or a pro-LBGT. This is all wayang kulit from you.
2) When asked whether you thought anal sex is unhealthy. You said “On whether it is unhealthy? I know from fact that it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. However, that is applicable to those who have multiple sexual partners or those come in contact with HIV positive partners. If the act is between a monogamous and committed couple, the risks can be mitigated.”
Answer:
Good that you agree it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. But, that’s the point. It boils down to Morality.
If it is to be based on the individual rights of a person/ couple as is your stand in all your comments, to do it freely and without fear or favour, where is the “Accountability” to the majority. Individual rights in Asian society entails some responsibility towards the majority. What you are constantly espousing in your “musings” is western concepts which are now undeniably slowly being overturned by a more vocal majority in their midst.
It’s a fallacy on your part if you deny that the minority in the West has been using all sorts of leverages and lobbying and discreet actions to get the recognition that they wanted, but, at what cost. Promiscuity, loose morals? Is that the way you want Singapore to go? Whatever your arguments you proffer will not hold water but only a “wayang kulit” because to you, as long as at the end of the day, your actions meets your aims.
3) When asked whether you felt anal sex is natural. You said “On whether it is natural? The word natural would, for me, draw a relation to reproduction. In this case, anal sex is not reproductive hence unnatural. However, I would not use “unnatural” to slant the term “anal sex” as the act is practiced in private. It serves no purpose unless the discussion was about reproduction.”
Answer:
Hello, if “CW” you still can’t see from the forest to the trees that “anal sex” is unnatural, you are either unnatural or just want to win the argument regardless of the natural order. There is no other interpretation or to put it in local jargon, “play backside”. Then, again, what is stopping the Father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter. That’s natural? No need to “slant” the term.
Let’s not continue playing with words here. You are evading a direct answer and the issue. Your anus was not meant for sex but for relieving yourself. Again you are playing with words, evading all the core issues and divert from answering directly.
My question to you : Is having “anal sex” natural? Do you think having your anus penetrated on a regular basis is natural? Don’t use the excuse that you don’t indulge in anal sex so you can comment. I don’t need to eat excrement to tell you it tastes bad.
4) “CW”, On being asked if you have watched the testimony of Christopher and Victor on http://christopheryuanvideo.blogspot.com/
You said : ”Not yet, but will do. Need Time. “
Answer:
If you are as impartial as what you try to portray, you would have seen it long time ago. Surprised you haven’t even watched it. If that’s the case, you really, really have lost the moral ground as your arguments are not impartial but evasive and suggestive towards pro-LBGT activism. Or perhaps you come from a background where no one taught you about morals and so this word is alien to you.
5) “CW”, you were asked if “Do you agree that Aware's CSE programme should have been suspended?”
You said: “…Yes, I believe it should be suspended. However, once the programme is refined to better reflect the necessary tones of society, it can request for the suspension to be lifted (subject to vetting and approval). ….I am not interested in the trainers’ manual, I am more interested in what was taught.”
Answer:
AWARE has rightly lost it’s moral authority by still standing by its position and no manner of ‘cosmetic’ application is going to change people’s mindset.
You are kidding if you think that the “trainer’s manual” is not important. It guides the “instructor” in formulating answers to the ‘students”. There have been comments by parents that said that the “instructors” themselves were pushing the line.
You should know that, recently, at a blogsite, a video clearly showed one of your AWARE “overseas” instructors trying to push their LBGT interpretations down the throat of a parent who was not convinced at all. Again, don’t tell me that you did not watch it. Then, how are you going to debate if you don’t watch something that you do not agree with. Again “wayang kulit”
Let’s talk about now. It’s very fine and noble that MOE should instruct the school counselors to do more but this is where they HAVE done so by “Outsourcing” them. But, you and AWARE and cohorts made slight of and took advantage of the people’s sincerity, ignorance, passivity and trust.
You don’t teach our “Young” that “anal sex” is normal and natural. It should not even be in the CSE. Unfortunately, CSE was taken directly from SIECUS, an organization from the USA or other, which are pro-LBGT as is AWARE (whom have stated their stance on this very clearly)
This is where the pro-LBGT took advantage to inveigle their agenda into the CSE to promulgate their views by trying to influence our “Children” at a very young age.
It is due to militant, aggressive and discreet actions such as by AWARE and it’s cohorts that brought out the “awareness” of the gravity of the danger to our young on how much MINORITY activism has secreted and permeated itself into our society through the Arts, Media, so-called NGOs & in Govt.
YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING!!!
“CW”,
Although you posted your comments to LEE, I have some very strong views of my own and decided to comment on what you said. I hope others will follow suit since this is public space."
In your postings on 28 Jun 09 , 14:44 PM you were asked:
1) What are your PERSONAL views about constant acts of anal sex in homosexuality?
You replied: “I don’t have a personal view or stand on it as I have not been a participant in anal sex. However, I think the decision is private to the individuals. Mind you, anal sex is not restrictive to homosexuality. Heterosexuals can choose to do so. So long as both are consenting adults, and both register the risks and are willing to be responsible for their actions, I think it is ok.
Answer:
For a person who showed so much conviction about LBGT, it is unlike you to have no personal view or stand. It’s like telling another adult, I will have to participate in killing a person before I make a stand on my personal views.
You either agree it is “okay” or “not okay” to have “anal sex”. You are conveniently sitting on the fence with your reply.
Since you brought up about “Consenting”, Homosexuality has always been around Asian culture. Nobody in this thread denies that. NO issue here.
You also said “Anal sex, is a private act, thus everybody will come to their own decision on it. I will not put it to the subject of morality, as everybody will have different degrees of belief and will make their own decisions on the matter.”
Answer:
Ha! CW! I completely agree with you that it is private, as Asian society in general has always seen it that way for hundreds of years. Good that you agree it is a PRIVATE ACT. Also, NO issue here.
The core issue is whether society in general agrees with it and they do NOT. Society in general frowns upon it. But, unfortunately, most in society are passive on-lookers. As long as LBGT do not cross the line. That is fine with society. No argument from you can support it.
Even in USA, there is a swelling of public opinion against it. The Europeans, they are the root of many ills in this world. Mostly, faults of old world politics and still playing the same game.
INDEED, it IS All About MORALITY. No society can survive without upholding their morality. That is why when young, your parents teach you not to kill etc. Didn’t you learnt of ancient Roman society where Morality degenerated into permissive actions like debauchery, anal sex, etc, Society will fail in the long run.
Imagine, with your meaning of freedom of choice, and independence of action, next you’ll see the father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter.
This is individual independence you are proscribing as your comments goes. That is what will happen when society is bereft of a set of Moral values/ Core values to uphold. As in Holland, you can’t stop your daughter from becoming a prostitute.
Truly, do you think that “daughter” being an individual, wants to be a prostitute? And if you try me with “Freedom of choice” that means you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. A typical mantra of those who supports LBGT. I have worked with them and I tell you this, none wants to be one but only due to economic necessities.
You are clearly either a consenting partner or a pro-LBGT. This is all wayang kulit from you.
2) When asked whether you thought anal sex is unhealthy. You said “On whether it is unhealthy? I know from fact that it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. However, that is applicable to those who have multiple sexual partners or those come in contact with HIV positive partners. If the act is between a monogamous and committed couple, the risks can be mitigated.”
Answer:
Good that you agree it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. But, that’s the point. It boils down to Morality.
If it is to be based on the individual rights of a person/ couple as is your stand in all your comments, to do it freely and without fear or favour, where is the “Accountability” to the majority. Individual rights in Asian society entails some responsibility towards the majority. What you are constantly espousing in your “musings” is western concepts which are now undeniably slowly being overturned by a more vocal majority in their midst.
It’s a fallacy on your part if you deny that the minority in the West has been using all sorts of leverages and lobbying and discreet actions to get the recognition that they wanted, but, at what cost. Promiscuity, loose morals? Is that the way you want Singapore to go? Whatever your arguments you proffer will not hold water but only a “wayang kulit” because to you, as long as at the end of the day, your actions meets your aims.
3) When asked whether you felt anal sex is natural. You said “On whether it is natural? The word natural would, for me, draw a relation to reproduction. In this case, anal sex is not reproductive hence unnatural. However, I would not use “unnatural” to slant the term “anal sex” as the act is practiced in private. It serves no purpose unless the discussion was about reproduction.”
Answer:
Hello, if “CW” you still can’t see from the forest to the trees that “anal sex” is unnatural, you are either unnatural or just want to win the argument regardless of the natural order. There is no other interpretation or to put it in local jargon, “play backside”. Then, again, what is stopping the Father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter. That’s natural? No need to “slant” the term.
Let’s not continue playing with words here. You are evading a direct answer and the issue. Your anus was not meant for sex but for relieving yourself. Again you are playing with words, evading all the core issues and divert from answering directly.
My question to you : Is having “anal sex” natural? Do you think having your anus penetrated on a regular basis is natural? Don’t use the excuse that you don’t indulge in anal sex so you can comment. I don’t need to eat excrement to tell you it tastes bad.
4) “CW”, On being asked if you have watched the testimony of Christopher and Victor on http://christopheryuanvideo.blogspot.com/
You said : ”Not yet, but will do. Need Time. “
Answer:
If you are as impartial as what you try to portray, you would have seen it long time ago. Surprised you haven’t even watched it. If that’s the case, you really, really have lost the moral ground as your arguments are not impartial but evasive and suggestive towards pro-LBGT activism. Or perhaps you come from a background where no one taught you about morals and so this word is alien to you.
5) “CW”, you were asked if “Do you agree that Aware's CSE programme should have been suspended?”
You said: “…Yes, I believe it should be suspended. However, once the programme is refined to better reflect the necessary tones of society, it can request for the suspension to be lifted (subject to vetting and approval). ….I am not interested in the trainers’ manual, I am more interested in what was taught.”
Answer:
AWARE has rightly lost it’s moral authority by still standing by its position and no manner of ‘cosmetic’ application is going to change people’s mindset.
You are kidding if you think that the “trainer’s manual” is not important. It guides the “instructor” in formulating answers to the ‘students”. There have been comments by parents that said that the “instructors” themselves were pushing the line.
You should know that, recently, at a blogsite, a video clearly showed one of your AWARE “overseas” instructors trying to push their LBGT interpretations down the throat of a parent who was not convinced at all. Again, don’t tell me that you did not watch it. Then, how are you going to debate if you don’t watch something that you do not agree with. Again “wayang kulit”
Let’s talk about now. It’s very fine and noble that MOE should instruct the school counselors to do more but this is where they HAVE done so by “Outsourcing” them. But, you and AWARE and cohorts made slight of and took advantage of the people’s sincerity, ignorance, passivity and trust.
You don’t teach our “Young” that “anal sex” is normal and natural. It should not even be in the CSE. Unfortunately, CSE was taken directly from SIECUS, an organization from the USA or other, which are pro-LBGT as is AWARE (whom have stated their stance on this very clearly)
This is where the pro-LBGT took advantage to inveigle their agenda into the CSE to promulgate their views by trying to influence our “Children” at a very young age.
It is due to militant, aggressive and discreet actions such as by AWARE and it’s cohorts that brought out the “awareness” of the gravity of the danger to our young on how much MINORITY activism has secreted and permeated itself into our society through the Arts, Media, so-called NGOs & in Govt.
YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING!!!
REACH BLOG - 29 Jun 09 , 19:53 PM
Too Concerned to Remain Silent anymore!
You are welcome, "Red Panda",
"MOE and also parents need to ensure this program is carried out according the guideline. Make sure no more Wolves in sheep's clothing coming to our school anymore."
Yes, agreed. I spoke to a Primary school Teacher when I received the Opt-Out form from my child today. I asked if the CSE will be taught by external vendors or school teachers, and was told that it would be taught by its selected school teachers who have gone through about 2 days of training on this program.
I also asked if the teachers would be able to handle questions asked by their students and I had also asked to see the materials to be taught before I sign anything on the form.
The teacher has invited me to the school to vet the materials and I want to make sure that its contents is appropriate and its values are with the conservative mainstream majority.
And Dear "Beware Aware", I find your - "If "CW" thinks its natural and ok to keep sticking things inside the anus - something must be awfully mentally wrong with that kind of thinking! "CW", this kind of rubbish should be flushed down the WC." quite funny!
I think we should get the CSE materials from the school to read and vet first before we commit anything. We need to know what are being taught to our kids.
You are welcome, "Red Panda",
"MOE and also parents need to ensure this program is carried out according the guideline. Make sure no more Wolves in sheep's clothing coming to our school anymore."
Yes, agreed. I spoke to a Primary school Teacher when I received the Opt-Out form from my child today. I asked if the CSE will be taught by external vendors or school teachers, and was told that it would be taught by its selected school teachers who have gone through about 2 days of training on this program.
I also asked if the teachers would be able to handle questions asked by their students and I had also asked to see the materials to be taught before I sign anything on the form.
The teacher has invited me to the school to vet the materials and I want to make sure that its contents is appropriate and its values are with the conservative mainstream majority.
And Dear "Beware Aware", I find your - "If "CW" thinks its natural and ok to keep sticking things inside the anus - something must be awfully mentally wrong with that kind of thinking! "CW", this kind of rubbish should be flushed down the WC." quite funny!
I think we should get the CSE materials from the school to read and vet first before we commit anything. We need to know what are being taught to our kids.
REACH BLOG-29 Jun 09 , 19:24 PM
Beware Aware!
Is "CW" from Aware?? Aware wanting to refine & offer their CSE to the schools again in the future? We must be crazy to believe these pro LGBT people. All singing the same tune on the anal retentive contents. The wolves in sheep’s clothing are still waiting longingly for the day when the shepherds are caught napping.
The natural role of the anus is for exit of faeces and excrement. Its for the exit of all things unclean. If "CW" thinks its natural and ok to keep sticking things inside the anus - something must be awfully mentally wrong with that kind of thinking! "CW", this kind of rubbish should be flushed down the WC.
Our nostrils are for breathing - you mean if people stick things up their nostrils in private just because there's an opening, that's considered ok??? Offering deviant programmes to our kids based on tis kind of logic?
You mean we all have to indulge in anal sex before we can have proof that its unnatural or unhealthy? Its common sense! Think of what your anus has been doing all these years - what is its NATURAL NORMAL function everday?? To defecate. Anything beyond that esp anal sex - is NOT NORMAL or HEALTHY!!!Think of what the anus has been doing NORMALLY throughout your life. PLAIN COMMON SENSE THAT YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STICKING ANYTHING INTO YOURS ANUS REGULARLY EXCEPT FOR MEDICAL CHECKUP.
Thank you MOE for introducing sexuality programmes based on responsibility. Ask Aware to concentrate on welfare of women and tell them to leave our children alone!!Suspend Aware for good from our schools.
Is "CW" from Aware?? Aware wanting to refine & offer their CSE to the schools again in the future? We must be crazy to believe these pro LGBT people. All singing the same tune on the anal retentive contents. The wolves in sheep’s clothing are still waiting longingly for the day when the shepherds are caught napping.
The natural role of the anus is for exit of faeces and excrement. Its for the exit of all things unclean. If "CW" thinks its natural and ok to keep sticking things inside the anus - something must be awfully mentally wrong with that kind of thinking! "CW", this kind of rubbish should be flushed down the WC.
Our nostrils are for breathing - you mean if people stick things up their nostrils in private just because there's an opening, that's considered ok??? Offering deviant programmes to our kids based on tis kind of logic?
You mean we all have to indulge in anal sex before we can have proof that its unnatural or unhealthy? Its common sense! Think of what your anus has been doing all these years - what is its NATURAL NORMAL function everday?? To defecate. Anything beyond that esp anal sex - is NOT NORMAL or HEALTHY!!!Think of what the anus has been doing NORMALLY throughout your life. PLAIN COMMON SENSE THAT YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STICKING ANYTHING INTO YOURS ANUS REGULARLY EXCEPT FOR MEDICAL CHECKUP.
Thank you MOE for introducing sexuality programmes based on responsibility. Ask Aware to concentrate on welfare of women and tell them to leave our children alone!!Suspend Aware for good from our schools.
REACH BLOG-29 Jun 09 , 17:00 PM
Red Panda
Thanks to "Too Concrned to Remained Silent anymore!"
The MOE's New CSE Program is fine. MOE and also parents need to ensure this program is carried out according the guideline. Make sure no more Wolves in sheep's clothing coming to our school anymore.
I recalled an argument by the pro-GLBT and pro-liberal in rebuking the concerned parents and religious persons by saying "Who are you teaching morality to us". I would counter argue by saying "WHO ARE YOU TEACHING IMMORALITY TO MY KIDS IN SCHOOL".
Thanks to "Too Concrned to Remained Silent anymore!"
The MOE's New CSE Program is fine. MOE and also parents need to ensure this program is carried out according the guideline. Make sure no more Wolves in sheep's clothing coming to our school anymore.
I recalled an argument by the pro-GLBT and pro-liberal in rebuking the concerned parents and religious persons by saying "Who are you teaching morality to us". I would counter argue by saying "WHO ARE YOU TEACHING IMMORALITY TO MY KIDS IN SCHOOL".
REACH BLOG - 29 Jun 09 , 15:26 PM
Too Concerned to Remain Silent anymore!
Hi All,
MOE has already release some info on its NEW CSE programs, here goes:-
THE GROWING YEARS SERIES
Overview
MOE’s Growing Years (GY) series is the main co-curricular package for sexuality education. GY is premised on the importance of the family as the basic unit of society, and teaches abstinence as the best choice for adolescents. The topics in GY aim to
promote healthy relationships based on love and respect, and are categorised under four main themes: Human Development, Interpersonal
Relationships, Sexual Health and Behaviour, and Societal Influences.
GY is developmental in nature, spanning the upper primary to post-secondary (JC/CI) levels.
The series comprises of the following packages:
- Upper Primary package “Curious Minds”
- Lower Secondary package “The Teenage Years”
- Upper Secondary package “Sense and Sexuality”
- Post Secondary package “Love Matters”
All schools are required to conduct sexuality education lessons using the GY resources, with minimal hours of lessons required for different levels: 8 hours for Upper Primary, 6 hours for Lower Secondary, 8 hours for Upper Secondary and 4 hours for Post Secondary. Adoption of GY is optional for aided and independent schools who may replace GY with their own programme.
1. “Curious Minds” (Upper Primary) package
The upper primary years mark the onset of puberty. With better nutrition and improved health care, children are reaching puberty at a younger age and have to grapple with physical, emotional and psychological changes in themselves.
The implication is that our children are becoming biologically ready for sexual activity sooner without necessarily having the corresponding cognitive or emotional maturity to modulate their behaviours. Easy access to information via the internet also means that unless properly guided, our young may find it a challenge to make appropriate choices on matters of sexuality.
“Curious Minds” is a response to these challenges. It is designed to underscore the importance
of character development and health. It consists of a multi-media package with interactive games, role-plays to engage pupils in learning facts about sexuality.
The topics covered include the reproductive system and anatomy, the changes involved in puberty, building healthy relationships, the importance of family, attitudes and values towards physical intimacy, legal issues relating to sexual abuse and exhibitionism, and constructive ways to express affection guided by society’s norms and values.
2. “The Teenage Years” (Lower Secondary) package
The values and attitudes of our youth towards sexuality are increasingly being shaped by their peers, exposure to the media, popular culture and the internet.
Adolescence is a complex stage in life as the adolescent attempts to find his/her own identity and often struggles with new social relationships.
The focus of “The Teenage Years” for Lower Secondary students is to guide adolescents on issues relating to the building of self-esteem, and to help them understand and value the following:
a. the underlying value for healthy relationships is respect;
b. abstinence as the best option for teens;
c. the possible consequences of sex outside of marriage;
d. sexual reproduction in human beings;
e. the legal issues pertaining to sexual behaviour;
f. how certain public displays of affection can affect others;
g. the influence of the media and the internet; and
h. how they can seek help, including professional help, when necessary.
3. “Sense and Sexuality” (Upper Secondary) package
Middle adolescence (generally from 15 – 17 years old) can be a turbulent period for adolescents. The gap between physical and emotional/cognitive maturity may
result in a tendency to act on impulse, experiment with various activities (including sexual activities), sometimes without understanding the unpleasant consequences that may arise from such experimentation.
The need for peer acceptance can be overwhelmingly strong, and hinder one’s ability to act responsibly. Given the pressures faced by the middle adolescent
from within themselves and from peers, it is important to build a strong sense of self-worth, personal convictions and an understanding of the possible consequences of sexual behaviour.
Through “Sense & Sexuality”, upper secondary students will have opportunity to build character, expand their understanding and repertoire of skills to deal with various issues related to sexuality, which are of prime concern at this age. These include:
a. Gender differences between males and females;
b. A better understanding of relationships;
c. Setting boundaries;
d. Commitment in relationships;
e. Understanding the influence of the media on sexuality;
f. Communication and relationship building;
g. Decision-making and assertiveness skills to say no to sex;
h. Discernment skills; and
i. Help-seeking behaviour such as coping with break-ups and rejection.
4. “Love Matters” (Post Secondary) package
The focus for “Love Matters” is on issues in relationships. Relating with peers is a major component in the lives of JC/CI students, who spend an average of half to two-thirds of their waking hours with their peers.
The focus of the Post Secondary package is on Interpersonal Relationships, with themes of Human Development, Sexual Health and Behaviour, and Societal Influences woven into the main focus on relationships.
The main objectives are to challenge students to:
a. examine their beliefs about relationships, cast off self-defeating and irrational beliefs and embrace healthy ones;
b. examine their behaviours in relationships in the light of their choices and consequences, and replace negative behaviours with positive alternatives; and
c. develop personal qualities in themselves that they desire in their friends and partners.
The overall desired outcomes are that students would be optimistic about life and relationships, respect the rights and dignity of others, and consider abstinence as the best option for themselves as teenagers.
Hi All,
MOE has already release some info on its NEW CSE programs, here goes:-
THE GROWING YEARS SERIES
Overview
MOE’s Growing Years (GY) series is the main co-curricular package for sexuality education. GY is premised on the importance of the family as the basic unit of society, and teaches abstinence as the best choice for adolescents. The topics in GY aim to
promote healthy relationships based on love and respect, and are categorised under four main themes: Human Development, Interpersonal
Relationships, Sexual Health and Behaviour, and Societal Influences.
GY is developmental in nature, spanning the upper primary to post-secondary (JC/CI) levels.
The series comprises of the following packages:
- Upper Primary package “Curious Minds”
- Lower Secondary package “The Teenage Years”
- Upper Secondary package “Sense and Sexuality”
- Post Secondary package “Love Matters”
All schools are required to conduct sexuality education lessons using the GY resources, with minimal hours of lessons required for different levels: 8 hours for Upper Primary, 6 hours for Lower Secondary, 8 hours for Upper Secondary and 4 hours for Post Secondary. Adoption of GY is optional for aided and independent schools who may replace GY with their own programme.
1. “Curious Minds” (Upper Primary) package
The upper primary years mark the onset of puberty. With better nutrition and improved health care, children are reaching puberty at a younger age and have to grapple with physical, emotional and psychological changes in themselves.
The implication is that our children are becoming biologically ready for sexual activity sooner without necessarily having the corresponding cognitive or emotional maturity to modulate their behaviours. Easy access to information via the internet also means that unless properly guided, our young may find it a challenge to make appropriate choices on matters of sexuality.
“Curious Minds” is a response to these challenges. It is designed to underscore the importance
of character development and health. It consists of a multi-media package with interactive games, role-plays to engage pupils in learning facts about sexuality.
The topics covered include the reproductive system and anatomy, the changes involved in puberty, building healthy relationships, the importance of family, attitudes and values towards physical intimacy, legal issues relating to sexual abuse and exhibitionism, and constructive ways to express affection guided by society’s norms and values.
2. “The Teenage Years” (Lower Secondary) package
The values and attitudes of our youth towards sexuality are increasingly being shaped by their peers, exposure to the media, popular culture and the internet.
Adolescence is a complex stage in life as the adolescent attempts to find his/her own identity and often struggles with new social relationships.
The focus of “The Teenage Years” for Lower Secondary students is to guide adolescents on issues relating to the building of self-esteem, and to help them understand and value the following:
a. the underlying value for healthy relationships is respect;
b. abstinence as the best option for teens;
c. the possible consequences of sex outside of marriage;
d. sexual reproduction in human beings;
e. the legal issues pertaining to sexual behaviour;
f. how certain public displays of affection can affect others;
g. the influence of the media and the internet; and
h. how they can seek help, including professional help, when necessary.
3. “Sense and Sexuality” (Upper Secondary) package
Middle adolescence (generally from 15 – 17 years old) can be a turbulent period for adolescents. The gap between physical and emotional/cognitive maturity may
result in a tendency to act on impulse, experiment with various activities (including sexual activities), sometimes without understanding the unpleasant consequences that may arise from such experimentation.
The need for peer acceptance can be overwhelmingly strong, and hinder one’s ability to act responsibly. Given the pressures faced by the middle adolescent
from within themselves and from peers, it is important to build a strong sense of self-worth, personal convictions and an understanding of the possible consequences of sexual behaviour.
Through “Sense & Sexuality”, upper secondary students will have opportunity to build character, expand their understanding and repertoire of skills to deal with various issues related to sexuality, which are of prime concern at this age. These include:
a. Gender differences between males and females;
b. A better understanding of relationships;
c. Setting boundaries;
d. Commitment in relationships;
e. Understanding the influence of the media on sexuality;
f. Communication and relationship building;
g. Decision-making and assertiveness skills to say no to sex;
h. Discernment skills; and
i. Help-seeking behaviour such as coping with break-ups and rejection.
4. “Love Matters” (Post Secondary) package
The focus for “Love Matters” is on issues in relationships. Relating with peers is a major component in the lives of JC/CI students, who spend an average of half to two-thirds of their waking hours with their peers.
The focus of the Post Secondary package is on Interpersonal Relationships, with themes of Human Development, Sexual Health and Behaviour, and Societal Influences woven into the main focus on relationships.
The main objectives are to challenge students to:
a. examine their beliefs about relationships, cast off self-defeating and irrational beliefs and embrace healthy ones;
b. examine their behaviours in relationships in the light of their choices and consequences, and replace negative behaviours with positive alternatives; and
c. develop personal qualities in themselves that they desire in their friends and partners.
The overall desired outcomes are that students would be optimistic about life and relationships, respect the rights and dignity of others, and consider abstinence as the best option for themselves as teenagers.
Sunday, June 28, 2009
Testimony on Suzanne Chin
Below is a testimony of God's grace and goodness in my sister Suzanne's life. Letter from Dr Alan Chin. Feel free to forward this to all your friends
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Dr Alan Chin
10-Jun-09
Testimony on Suzanne Chin
On the morning of Monday, 20 of April 2009, I received a call from my brother–in-law John that my sister Suzanne had suffered a cardiac arrest and was warded in ICU in hospital in Hong Kong. This came at the worst time possible as I was going through a time of tribulation and crisis in my own life. My wife Josie had just been appointed as the President of AWARE and when she most needed my support, I had to be away! (Remember the A.W.A.R.E. saga?)
My mother and I flew up that very afternoon to Hong Kong. We arrived that night and headed straight to Canossa Hospital where Suzanne was warded. We met John and my brother David who had flown in earlier. John recounted what had happened that morning.
As per her usual morning routine, after sending her kids to school, she went for her morning jog with her dog. However, after around ten minutes, she decided to turn back as she was feeling tired. She had a bath and went to bed. As John noticed that she looked unwell and was slow in her speech, he called for the ambulance. Within 10-15 minutes she was on her way to hospital, still conscious.
Unfortunately on arrival at 8:38am, she lapsed into unconsciousness with an unrecordable blood pressure. The doctors commenced resuscitation which lasted about 2 hours. ECG on admission showed narrow complex bradycardia. Intra venous adrenaline was administered and she developed a ventricular tachycardia. She was defibrillated which resulted in sinus rhythm. She was intubated and started on IV dopamine and adrenaline.
She was transferred to ICU after she had been stabilized.
MRI of Brain showed:
- Tiny T2W dark signal in Right cerebellar hemisphere, likely a nonspecific focus due to a tiny calcification or tiny focus of old No other intracranial abnormality.
- Trace fluid signal in posterior wall of NP.
- ECG immediate post resuscitation on 20.4.2009 – SR, ST depression in praecordial leads
CXR report:
- Interstitial lung markings, right lung pleural fluid, slightly more confluent shadowing RUZ, but may have some pneumonic changes.
In ICU, she developed diabetes insipidus – marked urine output (serum osmolarity 325 urine osmolarity 129) responded to DDAVP.
When I saw Suzanne in ICU, she did not look good. She was on a ventilator; her pupils were 4mm fixed and dilated. Her limbs were flaccid. The respiratory physician advised that the prognosis was very poor with evidence of brain stem death and pituitary gland failure. The room temperature in ICU was kept low to slow down the metabolic processes.
I spent the night in hospital praying and interceding. I proclaimed Psalm118:17 over Suzanne that she shall not die but live to declare the works of the Lord.
An echocardiogram done the next morning on Tue, 21 April 2009 by the cardiologist, Dr. David Ho showed:
- Moderate Aortic Regurgitation with global left ventricular dysfunction and moderate to severe global hypokinesia.
- Cardiac valves showed no abnormal thickening.
- Tri-leaflet aortic valve
- LVES 4.89cm LVED 5.35cm
- EF 19% by M mode
- LA 2.72cm
Dr Ho suggested a diagnosis of acute aortic valve prolapse leading to cardiac arrest.
That afternoon, her condition remained unchanged. The temperature in the ICU was now turned up in a not-too-subtle hint that the doctors had given up.
The respiratory physician again advised that there was no improvement and confirmed that Suzanne had brain stem death (BSD). It is a term equated with death to describe a person on life-support system when faced with a decision whether or not to switch off the ventilator or to harvest organs for organ transplant. She advised John to consider switching off the ventilator as Suzanne was now dead and there was no hope of recovery. She added in medical history there were no cases of anybody recovering from BSD.
I contacted my friends in Singapore to pray for Suzanne.
We requested for a second opinion from a neurologist who examined her that afternoon. Her pupils were fixed and dilated. Vestibulo-ocular reflex was negative. She had a negative gag and cough reflex. There was no pain reflex in response to deep pressure over sternum, fingers, and eyebrow. She was flaccid, a-reflexic and there was no plantar response. His diagnosis was also that of brain stem death.
That evening, Suzanne looked dead. She was cold and clammy; facial discoloration had set in, especially under her eyes. There was also a smell of death over her. That evening, her children, Kim and Ian saw her for the first time after her collapse. The whole family was distraught. Everyone was grieving for Suzanne.
Later that night, I called Josie to update her on Suzanne’s condition. She spoke to John and prayed with him. She received the word "resurrection" and told John that God is our Healer and that He would resurrect all her brain cells.
Even as I prayed that night, I asked Father God where was Suzanne ? He answered that she was with Him. I then asked whether she would be coming back. He said yes! I asked when but there was no answer. I then asked for a sign by Wednesday as I had scheduled to return to Singapore that afternoon. Comforted I went to sleep early that night.
Things started to turn around on Wednesday. Early that morning, the nurses noticed slight movement as they were sucking phlegm from her intubation tube. John excitedly called from hospital that early morning saying Suzanne had opened her eyes for the briefest moment several times!
We hurried down to the hospital. As we called her name there was response with twitching of her lips and movement of her eyebrows. She opened her eyes several times! We were all greatly encouraged.
Suzanne was then reassessed by the neurologist. When he called her name, there was no response. When he asked her to move her arm, again there was no response. However, when I called out her name, she opened her eyes. She also moved her fingers when I asked her to move her hand. Her pupils were still fixed and dilated with a negative doll’s eye reflex. There was grimacing of her face in response to deep pressure for pain over her fingers and sternum.
Strangely the neurologist still advised John that these signs were just autonomic responses. She also warned John not to raise false hopes of recovery as Suzanne had BSD!
At around noon, the respiratory physician noted there were further signs of recovery. Suzanne had started triggering the ventilator to breathe, about 5-10% of the breaths. By the time I left the hospital for the airport at about 1:30pm, she was initiating 100% of her breathing.
By that evening, there was movement of all her four limbs; with increasing episodes of eye movements. Her pupils were no longer fixed and dilated and she had regained her pupillary reflexes.
However she developed a fever. Her total white blood count was 34,500. Chest X-Ray showed lobar pneumonia, with bilateral infiltrates indicative of adult respiratory distress syndrome. Remarkably all these settled down within 24 hours.
On Thursday 23 April, while being reassessed by her neurologist, John asked Suzanne to nod her head if she understood him. She did so. He then asked her to nod her head twice as the doctor was skeptical. Again she did so.
By Friday 24 April, Suzanne was fully conscious and able to recognize all who visited her.
Echo of heart: Ejection Fraction had improved from 19% to 43%. (Her EF was back to normal by Monday 27 April).
Suzanne was ex-tubated on Saturday, 25 April. She was able to talk shortly after that. Neurological examination revealed full and total recovery with no neurological deficits.
I spoke to her that afternoon over the phone just before I testified in church of God’s power and amazing grace in bringing her back from the dead.
On Sunday 26 April morning, Suzanne was up and about and was able to shower herself. She even asked John to bring her facial wash and moisturizer.
She was discharged the following Tuesday.
As I shared her amazing testimony in Church Of Our Savior again, on Sunday 26 April morning, a reporter from ‘The Newpaper’ was also present. Intending to hear Pastor Derek's sermon, she had no choice but to sit through my sharing of this miracle. It was then reported on Monday 27 April The Newpaper’s Front page!
Up till today doctors are not able to ascertain what happened to Suzanne as all the tests have been negative. She is fully recovered and coming back to Singapore permanently this end June 2009 after spending 15 years in Hong Kong.
Suzanne remembers that while she was in coma, she dreamt that she was pinned down on the floor of an apartment she had earlier visited in Pandan Valley Singapore. She tried to get up but someone (she described it as an evil presence) prevented her from doing so.
She has been touched and changed by her experience and walking closer to God.
I hope that Suzanne’s miraculous resurrection will be a source of comfort, strength and encouragement of the reality of God’s amazing grace, mercy and goodness.
Revelation 19:10b states: For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Let him or her who needs a miracle from God, claim one.
Dr Alan Chin
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Dr Alan Chin
10-Jun-09
Testimony on Suzanne Chin
On the morning of Monday, 20 of April 2009, I received a call from my brother–in-law John that my sister Suzanne had suffered a cardiac arrest and was warded in ICU in hospital in Hong Kong. This came at the worst time possible as I was going through a time of tribulation and crisis in my own life. My wife Josie had just been appointed as the President of AWARE and when she most needed my support, I had to be away! (Remember the A.W.A.R.E. saga?)
My mother and I flew up that very afternoon to Hong Kong. We arrived that night and headed straight to Canossa Hospital where Suzanne was warded. We met John and my brother David who had flown in earlier. John recounted what had happened that morning.
As per her usual morning routine, after sending her kids to school, she went for her morning jog with her dog. However, after around ten minutes, she decided to turn back as she was feeling tired. She had a bath and went to bed. As John noticed that she looked unwell and was slow in her speech, he called for the ambulance. Within 10-15 minutes she was on her way to hospital, still conscious.
Unfortunately on arrival at 8:38am, she lapsed into unconsciousness with an unrecordable blood pressure. The doctors commenced resuscitation which lasted about 2 hours. ECG on admission showed narrow complex bradycardia. Intra venous adrenaline was administered and she developed a ventricular tachycardia. She was defibrillated which resulted in sinus rhythm. She was intubated and started on IV dopamine and adrenaline.
She was transferred to ICU after she had been stabilized.
MRI of Brain showed:
- Tiny T2W dark signal in Right cerebellar hemisphere, likely a nonspecific focus due to a tiny calcification or tiny focus of old No other intracranial abnormality.
- Trace fluid signal in posterior wall of NP.
- ECG immediate post resuscitation on 20.4.2009 – SR, ST depression in praecordial leads
CXR report:
- Interstitial lung markings, right lung pleural fluid, slightly more confluent shadowing RUZ, but may have some pneumonic changes.
In ICU, she developed diabetes insipidus – marked urine output (serum osmolarity 325 urine osmolarity 129) responded to DDAVP.
When I saw Suzanne in ICU, she did not look good. She was on a ventilator; her pupils were 4mm fixed and dilated. Her limbs were flaccid. The respiratory physician advised that the prognosis was very poor with evidence of brain stem death and pituitary gland failure. The room temperature in ICU was kept low to slow down the metabolic processes.
I spent the night in hospital praying and interceding. I proclaimed Psalm118:17 over Suzanne that she shall not die but live to declare the works of the Lord.
An echocardiogram done the next morning on Tue, 21 April 2009 by the cardiologist, Dr. David Ho showed:
- Moderate Aortic Regurgitation with global left ventricular dysfunction and moderate to severe global hypokinesia.
- Cardiac valves showed no abnormal thickening.
- Tri-leaflet aortic valve
- LVES 4.89cm LVED 5.35cm
- EF 19% by M mode
- LA 2.72cm
Dr Ho suggested a diagnosis of acute aortic valve prolapse leading to cardiac arrest.
That afternoon, her condition remained unchanged. The temperature in the ICU was now turned up in a not-too-subtle hint that the doctors had given up.
The respiratory physician again advised that there was no improvement and confirmed that Suzanne had brain stem death (BSD). It is a term equated with death to describe a person on life-support system when faced with a decision whether or not to switch off the ventilator or to harvest organs for organ transplant. She advised John to consider switching off the ventilator as Suzanne was now dead and there was no hope of recovery. She added in medical history there were no cases of anybody recovering from BSD.
I contacted my friends in Singapore to pray for Suzanne.
We requested for a second opinion from a neurologist who examined her that afternoon. Her pupils were fixed and dilated. Vestibulo-ocular reflex was negative. She had a negative gag and cough reflex. There was no pain reflex in response to deep pressure over sternum, fingers, and eyebrow. She was flaccid, a-reflexic and there was no plantar response. His diagnosis was also that of brain stem death.
That evening, Suzanne looked dead. She was cold and clammy; facial discoloration had set in, especially under her eyes. There was also a smell of death over her. That evening, her children, Kim and Ian saw her for the first time after her collapse. The whole family was distraught. Everyone was grieving for Suzanne.
Later that night, I called Josie to update her on Suzanne’s condition. She spoke to John and prayed with him. She received the word "resurrection" and told John that God is our Healer and that He would resurrect all her brain cells.
Even as I prayed that night, I asked Father God where was Suzanne ? He answered that she was with Him. I then asked whether she would be coming back. He said yes! I asked when but there was no answer. I then asked for a sign by Wednesday as I had scheduled to return to Singapore that afternoon. Comforted I went to sleep early that night.
Things started to turn around on Wednesday. Early that morning, the nurses noticed slight movement as they were sucking phlegm from her intubation tube. John excitedly called from hospital that early morning saying Suzanne had opened her eyes for the briefest moment several times!
We hurried down to the hospital. As we called her name there was response with twitching of her lips and movement of her eyebrows. She opened her eyes several times! We were all greatly encouraged.
Suzanne was then reassessed by the neurologist. When he called her name, there was no response. When he asked her to move her arm, again there was no response. However, when I called out her name, she opened her eyes. She also moved her fingers when I asked her to move her hand. Her pupils were still fixed and dilated with a negative doll’s eye reflex. There was grimacing of her face in response to deep pressure for pain over her fingers and sternum.
Strangely the neurologist still advised John that these signs were just autonomic responses. She also warned John not to raise false hopes of recovery as Suzanne had BSD!
At around noon, the respiratory physician noted there were further signs of recovery. Suzanne had started triggering the ventilator to breathe, about 5-10% of the breaths. By the time I left the hospital for the airport at about 1:30pm, she was initiating 100% of her breathing.
By that evening, there was movement of all her four limbs; with increasing episodes of eye movements. Her pupils were no longer fixed and dilated and she had regained her pupillary reflexes.
However she developed a fever. Her total white blood count was 34,500. Chest X-Ray showed lobar pneumonia, with bilateral infiltrates indicative of adult respiratory distress syndrome. Remarkably all these settled down within 24 hours.
On Thursday 23 April, while being reassessed by her neurologist, John asked Suzanne to nod her head if she understood him. She did so. He then asked her to nod her head twice as the doctor was skeptical. Again she did so.
By Friday 24 April, Suzanne was fully conscious and able to recognize all who visited her.
Echo of heart: Ejection Fraction had improved from 19% to 43%. (Her EF was back to normal by Monday 27 April).
Suzanne was ex-tubated on Saturday, 25 April. She was able to talk shortly after that. Neurological examination revealed full and total recovery with no neurological deficits.
I spoke to her that afternoon over the phone just before I testified in church of God’s power and amazing grace in bringing her back from the dead.
On Sunday 26 April morning, Suzanne was up and about and was able to shower herself. She even asked John to bring her facial wash and moisturizer.
She was discharged the following Tuesday.
As I shared her amazing testimony in Church Of Our Savior again, on Sunday 26 April morning, a reporter from ‘The Newpaper’ was also present. Intending to hear Pastor Derek's sermon, she had no choice but to sit through my sharing of this miracle. It was then reported on Monday 27 April The Newpaper’s Front page!
Up till today doctors are not able to ascertain what happened to Suzanne as all the tests have been negative. She is fully recovered and coming back to Singapore permanently this end June 2009 after spending 15 years in Hong Kong.
Suzanne remembers that while she was in coma, she dreamt that she was pinned down on the floor of an apartment she had earlier visited in Pandan Valley Singapore. She tried to get up but someone (she described it as an evil presence) prevented her from doing so.
She has been touched and changed by her experience and walking closer to God.
I hope that Suzanne’s miraculous resurrection will be a source of comfort, strength and encouragement of the reality of God’s amazing grace, mercy and goodness.
Revelation 19:10b states: For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Let him or her who needs a miracle from God, claim one.
Dr Alan Chin
Friday, June 26, 2009
REACH Blog
31/05/2009
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A MENTAL DISORDER
By SuperAdamantium @ 4:08 AM :: 54 Views :: 0 Comments :: General
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A MENTAL DISORDER. Not convinced? Then read this factual account of what happened in the 1970s that forced the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from its list of disorders. Homosexual activists threatened and bullied the APA into submission. The APA did not come to this decision by scientific recourse. READ ALL ABOUT IT
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A MENTAL DISORDER
By SuperAdamantium @ 4:08 AM :: 54 Views :: 0 Comments :: General
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A MENTAL DISORDER. Not convinced? Then read this factual account of what happened in the 1970s that forced the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from its list of disorders. Homosexual activists threatened and bullied the APA into submission. The APA did not come to this decision by scientific recourse. READ ALL ABOUT IT
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
REACH Blog
29/05/2009
In Defence of Society's Standards
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/576/In-Defence-of-Societys-Standards.aspx
By SuperAdamantium @ 9:38 PM :: 46 Views :: 0 Comments :: Aspirations for REACH
The last time I checked, the MOE had fired AWARE as a sex education programme provider because of the latter’s promotion of gay propaganda. If calling a spade a spade is deemed moral bashing, I wonder what would one call MOE’s action? Moral execution? Yet MOE’s action was widely applauded by mainstream society.
Most of the moral decline in Western societies and now in Singaporean society that allowed for the rise of homosexual militancy almost unchecked stemmed firstly from a misplaced sense of societal harmony ------ that moral indignations are called moral bashings, that groups with aberrant norms or morals must be included to reach a consensus for the sake of harmony, that an amoral, laissez faire attitude is best.
The issue now is a fight over standards, moral standards for society. Not a fight over whether homosexuals have the right to live.
Standards cannot entertain exceptions, just like 1 metre must equal 100 centimetres ------ there are no exceptions to this measure. Or that the passing mark for an examination is 50.
You may fail to live up to the standard; but the standard stays. You don’t change the passing mark just so that you can pass. That’s subversion.
So the moral standard for sexuality in our society is heterosexuality. That which doesn’t make the grade then is deemed immoral. What’s immoral ------ homosexuality, bisexuality, paedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, sadomasochism, etc, whatever.
Homosexuals are now trying, through AWARE, through sex education programme in schools, through the media, the arts and politics to change society’s moral benchmark to include homosexuality as a pass.
Like I said, society’s moral standards should not change. You can fail to make the grade. You live to try another day. Nobody’s denying you the right to live. But mainstream society would and should deny homsosexual activists' efforts at corrupting and subverting our moral standards.
In Defence of Society's Standards
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/576/In-Defence-of-Societys-Standards.aspx
By SuperAdamantium @ 9:38 PM :: 46 Views :: 0 Comments :: Aspirations for REACH
The last time I checked, the MOE had fired AWARE as a sex education programme provider because of the latter’s promotion of gay propaganda. If calling a spade a spade is deemed moral bashing, I wonder what would one call MOE’s action? Moral execution? Yet MOE’s action was widely applauded by mainstream society.
Most of the moral decline in Western societies and now in Singaporean society that allowed for the rise of homosexual militancy almost unchecked stemmed firstly from a misplaced sense of societal harmony ------ that moral indignations are called moral bashings, that groups with aberrant norms or morals must be included to reach a consensus for the sake of harmony, that an amoral, laissez faire attitude is best.
The issue now is a fight over standards, moral standards for society. Not a fight over whether homosexuals have the right to live.
Standards cannot entertain exceptions, just like 1 metre must equal 100 centimetres ------ there are no exceptions to this measure. Or that the passing mark for an examination is 50.
You may fail to live up to the standard; but the standard stays. You don’t change the passing mark just so that you can pass. That’s subversion.
So the moral standard for sexuality in our society is heterosexuality. That which doesn’t make the grade then is deemed immoral. What’s immoral ------ homosexuality, bisexuality, paedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, sadomasochism, etc, whatever.
Homosexuals are now trying, through AWARE, through sex education programme in schools, through the media, the arts and politics to change society’s moral benchmark to include homosexuality as a pass.
Like I said, society’s moral standards should not change. You can fail to make the grade. You live to try another day. Nobody’s denying you the right to live. But mainstream society would and should deny homsosexual activists' efforts at corrupting and subverting our moral standards.
REACH Blog
9/5/2009
OVERSIGHT ON MOE REGARDIN AWARE SEX GUIDE
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/564/OVERSIGHT-ON-MOE-REGARDIN-AWARE-SEX-GUIDE.aspx
By Raymond Lo Wan Mou @ 5:52 PM :: 110 Views :: 0 Comments :: The Young Ones
Dear Reach Executive,
Ministry of Education (MOE) has announced the suspension of The Aware sexuality educational programme for all main stream schools.
I am thoroughly disappointed with MOE on why it takes so long to do this.
They are supposed to be professional educators moulding the future of this nation. Their fundamental responsibility is to nurture our children into good citizens, conscious of their responsibilities to their families, society and country.
Being a cabby and had picked up countless number of times students and youth, I know for a fact that our young ones of both sexes are very aggressive, covetous, disrespectful, destructive and full of expletives and vulgarity whenever they speak- every expression contains the 4 letter word. From some of their conversation, they have given me the impression that they had already engaged in all forms of sex at young age. Is it surprise that there are many teenagers’ abortion nowadays?
Allowing AWARE's sex guide in our mainstream schools for so long wittingly or unwitting by MOE has made the matter worse on our impassionate youth. And please MOE do not tell me that there is an oversight on your part on this important educational programme.
Of course, bad role model and indulgent parents also plays a crucial part on bad development of our young ones.
And why is it that MOE must wait for parents to complain of this unhealthy sex programme - only then they will review the guideline? Is it not their primary duty as professional educators to do this in the first place?
It is in this aspect that MOE has let down our parents and children in particular, and our society and nation in general.
Warmest Regards
OVERSIGHT ON MOE REGARDIN AWARE SEX GUIDE
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/564/OVERSIGHT-ON-MOE-REGARDIN-AWARE-SEX-GUIDE.aspx
By Raymond Lo Wan Mou @ 5:52 PM :: 110 Views :: 0 Comments :: The Young Ones
Dear Reach Executive,
Ministry of Education (MOE) has announced the suspension of The Aware sexuality educational programme for all main stream schools.
I am thoroughly disappointed with MOE on why it takes so long to do this.
They are supposed to be professional educators moulding the future of this nation. Their fundamental responsibility is to nurture our children into good citizens, conscious of their responsibilities to their families, society and country.
Being a cabby and had picked up countless number of times students and youth, I know for a fact that our young ones of both sexes are very aggressive, covetous, disrespectful, destructive and full of expletives and vulgarity whenever they speak- every expression contains the 4 letter word. From some of their conversation, they have given me the impression that they had already engaged in all forms of sex at young age. Is it surprise that there are many teenagers’ abortion nowadays?
Allowing AWARE's sex guide in our mainstream schools for so long wittingly or unwitting by MOE has made the matter worse on our impassionate youth. And please MOE do not tell me that there is an oversight on your part on this important educational programme.
Of course, bad role model and indulgent parents also plays a crucial part on bad development of our young ones.
And why is it that MOE must wait for parents to complain of this unhealthy sex programme - only then they will review the guideline? Is it not their primary duty as professional educators to do this in the first place?
It is in this aspect that MOE has let down our parents and children in particular, and our society and nation in general.
Warmest Regards
REACH Blog
6/5/2009
My Humble Thoughts on AWARE
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/561/My-Humble-Thoughts-on-AWARE.aspx
By Charisso @ 6:47 PM :: 85 Views :: 0 Comments :: Women, General
I am among those who attended the EGM on Saturday. I must say I have witnessed a demonstration of 'whoever is louder wins', because by sheer volume, one side has many times deprived the other of its right to deliver statements and even to reply to questions posed to them. While I am impressed by the pro-Old Guards party for their passion and firm belief in inclusiveness, I cannot say the same for the behaviour. I think it is basic courtesy not to interrupt when another person is talking, what's more, answering a question that was posed by themselves. Don't they want to hear the answer to their question? Or were they are only interested in shouting out their displeasure and fanning the emotions of the crowd? Throughout the meeting, there were cutting-in, booing and jeering while the Ex-Co was trying to reply. Josie did not even get a chance to deliver her President's Message in peace. I am appalled. I wonder what is the indication of this for the civic space in Singapore. I really have to applaud Josie's team for their courageous effort, standing up to the thousand plus people, railing and yelling at them for a full 7 hours. I for one, would not have been able to withstand it.
One other issue that bothered me was besides the 3000 who turned up, I wonder how informed the rest of the Singaporeans are about this matter. I recalled a survey done by the papers during the month-long report of this entire saga, majority were either not aware or not bothered. I think this is a cause for concern because everyone has to realise that their stand matters. We cannot rely on another person to make a choice for ourselves because logically, the other person may not make the choice that we want. If we have a choice, we should make it. If not, we have robbed ourselves of that right. And if the final result is not what we wanted, then we only have ourselves to blame because we did not voice out what we want. It is a consequence that the entire society has to bear because of apathy.
Thirdly, I have great reservations on the impartiality of the reports we have seen so far on the papers. One would have noticed a severely unbalanced 'air time' given to the Old Guards compared to the New Guards. Day after day, reports of perturbed, upset and disappointed Old Guards were splashed across the prime pages. May I ask, is this stirring up for sympathy votes? Is this stirring up of anti-New Ex-Co feelings? In my humble opinion, it really looks like it. Why do I not see the same treatment for the new Ex-Co members who received threats to their life and careers just because they stood up to fight for the good of our next generation! What is this! For as far as I can remember, when the first report came out on Good Friday papers, the New Guards were portrayed as power-grabbers who overthrew the overly-trusting Old Guards, the report likening it to a merciless coup. May I ask, which is merciless – a civilised and legitimate voting in of new people into the Ex-Co on the 28 March AGM or that unruly and unreasonable yelling and jeering for full 7 hours at the 2 May EGM? By the way, does the Constitution say that they can vote in a replacement Ex-Co right on the spot? Perhaps someone can clarify this.
Finally, as a parent to-be, I am most concerned what will be taught to my son in school. The unearthing of the contents of the CSE programme is the most harrowing yet consoling thing that has come out of the entire issue. Harrowing because of the questionable values that the programme imparts to unsuspecting young minds. I remember the astonishment I felt when I read that anal sex can be healthy so long as it is practised with a condom and with consent. The statement that pre-marital sex is actually neutral also sent a chill to my heart. Perhaps I am old-fashioned, but for me, even to see such statements in adult magazines would have been mind-boggling, what more for 12 to 18-year olds? What is the point of telling them that? Nevertheless, it is a consolation that the programme is being investigated now, and I think this episode has awakened many parents to take more interest in their children's lives. They are after all our precious ones, do we not want the best for them?
My Humble Thoughts on AWARE
http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/BlogUs/tabid/54/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/561/My-Humble-Thoughts-on-AWARE.aspx
By Charisso @ 6:47 PM :: 85 Views :: 0 Comments :: Women, General
I am among those who attended the EGM on Saturday. I must say I have witnessed a demonstration of 'whoever is louder wins', because by sheer volume, one side has many times deprived the other of its right to deliver statements and even to reply to questions posed to them. While I am impressed by the pro-Old Guards party for their passion and firm belief in inclusiveness, I cannot say the same for the behaviour. I think it is basic courtesy not to interrupt when another person is talking, what's more, answering a question that was posed by themselves. Don't they want to hear the answer to their question? Or were they are only interested in shouting out their displeasure and fanning the emotions of the crowd? Throughout the meeting, there were cutting-in, booing and jeering while the Ex-Co was trying to reply. Josie did not even get a chance to deliver her President's Message in peace. I am appalled. I wonder what is the indication of this for the civic space in Singapore. I really have to applaud Josie's team for their courageous effort, standing up to the thousand plus people, railing and yelling at them for a full 7 hours. I for one, would not have been able to withstand it.
One other issue that bothered me was besides the 3000 who turned up, I wonder how informed the rest of the Singaporeans are about this matter. I recalled a survey done by the papers during the month-long report of this entire saga, majority were either not aware or not bothered. I think this is a cause for concern because everyone has to realise that their stand matters. We cannot rely on another person to make a choice for ourselves because logically, the other person may not make the choice that we want. If we have a choice, we should make it. If not, we have robbed ourselves of that right. And if the final result is not what we wanted, then we only have ourselves to blame because we did not voice out what we want. It is a consequence that the entire society has to bear because of apathy.
Thirdly, I have great reservations on the impartiality of the reports we have seen so far on the papers. One would have noticed a severely unbalanced 'air time' given to the Old Guards compared to the New Guards. Day after day, reports of perturbed, upset and disappointed Old Guards were splashed across the prime pages. May I ask, is this stirring up for sympathy votes? Is this stirring up of anti-New Ex-Co feelings? In my humble opinion, it really looks like it. Why do I not see the same treatment for the new Ex-Co members who received threats to their life and careers just because they stood up to fight for the good of our next generation! What is this! For as far as I can remember, when the first report came out on Good Friday papers, the New Guards were portrayed as power-grabbers who overthrew the overly-trusting Old Guards, the report likening it to a merciless coup. May I ask, which is merciless – a civilised and legitimate voting in of new people into the Ex-Co on the 28 March AGM or that unruly and unreasonable yelling and jeering for full 7 hours at the 2 May EGM? By the way, does the Constitution say that they can vote in a replacement Ex-Co right on the spot? Perhaps someone can clarify this.
Finally, as a parent to-be, I am most concerned what will be taught to my son in school. The unearthing of the contents of the CSE programme is the most harrowing yet consoling thing that has come out of the entire issue. Harrowing because of the questionable values that the programme imparts to unsuspecting young minds. I remember the astonishment I felt when I read that anal sex can be healthy so long as it is practised with a condom and with consent. The statement that pre-marital sex is actually neutral also sent a chill to my heart. Perhaps I am old-fashioned, but for me, even to see such statements in adult magazines would have been mind-boggling, what more for 12 to 18-year olds? What is the point of telling them that? Nevertheless, it is a consolation that the programme is being investigated now, and I think this episode has awakened many parents to take more interest in their children's lives. They are after all our precious ones, do we not want the best for them?
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Objectivity In Media Reporting
Even Straits Times with huge resources and many years of experienced reporters has kept quiet
23 Jun 09 , 17:30 PM
ha ha, more likely that gay activists cannot rebut against "handful" of upset parents. Even Straits Times with huge resources and many years of experienced reporters has kept quiet against "handful" angry parents here. At least now people know that capable people are not only in Straits Times only.
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One-sided story
22 Jun 09 , 22:27 PM
We are surrounded by Muslim Neighbours (Countries). Our very own National Anthem is in Malay. Isn't it insulting to the Muslim Community if we were to open up to liberalism, promoting homosexual activities? Our PM is definitely right to stand firm on this issue to remain a conservative society, unless we be a laughing stock by our very own neighbours.
23 Jun 09 , 17:30 PM
ha ha, more likely that gay activists cannot rebut against "handful" of upset parents. Even Straits Times with huge resources and many years of experienced reporters has kept quiet against "handful" angry parents here. At least now people know that capable people are not only in Straits Times only.
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One-sided story
22 Jun 09 , 22:27 PM
We are surrounded by Muslim Neighbours (Countries). Our very own National Anthem is in Malay. Isn't it insulting to the Muslim Community if we were to open up to liberalism, promoting homosexual activities? Our PM is definitely right to stand firm on this issue to remain a conservative society, unless we be a laughing stock by our very own neighbours.
Ensuring A Diversity Of Views In Parliament
Silent Majority
23 Jun 09 , 17:42 PM
Silent Majority
23 Jun 09 , 10:52 AM
Hi, "Too concerned......"
Heard you! Trouble now is Beatrice is out of the picture for now as the Arts scene of about 150 people have already voted in 2 of their cohorts, namely, Audrey Wong(Substation) and Loretta Chen(confirmed L***) as their representatives.
Regards,
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23 Jun 09 , 09:58 AM
Dear Silent Majority,
Besides the 2 Arts NMP, please do not forget Beatrice Chia! She is no better than Loretta Chen or Siew Kum Hong. All are Pro-LGBTs and LGBT. You should check out all her many films. Themes on Homosexuality, sexually explicit and erotic, sado-masochistic and the list goes on...
She is highly Controversial, vocal and daring. Isn't it obvious WHY she applied to be in parliament? Voice for Alternative, Liberal, Unnatural, Unhealthy, Lifestyles and another Pro-LGBT Activist!
We do NOT want or need people like that in our parliament! One is already too many!
Please all when you write, don't forget Beatrice Chia too.
23 Jun 09 , 17:42 PM
Silent Majority
23 Jun 09 , 10:52 AM
Hi, "Too concerned......"
Heard you! Trouble now is Beatrice is out of the picture for now as the Arts scene of about 150 people have already voted in 2 of their cohorts, namely, Audrey Wong(Substation) and Loretta Chen(confirmed L***) as their representatives.
Regards,
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23 Jun 09 , 09:58 AM
Dear Silent Majority,
Besides the 2 Arts NMP, please do not forget Beatrice Chia! She is no better than Loretta Chen or Siew Kum Hong. All are Pro-LGBTs and LGBT. You should check out all her many films. Themes on Homosexuality, sexually explicit and erotic, sado-masochistic and the list goes on...
She is highly Controversial, vocal and daring. Isn't it obvious WHY she applied to be in parliament? Voice for Alternative, Liberal, Unnatural, Unhealthy, Lifestyles and another Pro-LGBT Activist!
We do NOT want or need people like that in our parliament! One is already too many!
Please all when you write, don't forget Beatrice Chia too.
Another Concern Citizen 13 Jun 09 , 10:20 AM
REACH Thread - Objectivity In Media Reporting
Hi All, I strongly recommend this blog site, just in case there are still some people that have yet to fully understand or seeks more information regarding Aware devious CSE program, which you do not hear or hardly hear from the media. In fact it was thru this blog that I am able to get a copy of the CSE trainer manual and also came to know REACH web site.
Go to this site: http://tampinescourt.blogspot.com/
Scroll down to read more on past articles/comments concerning Aware & CSE for more understanding.
By the way, just thinking...if only we can let the 7200 over concern people that petition to MOE to remove the CSE program to be aware of REACH web site,to know that finally their opinions can be heard in REACH and not shut out by the media. REACH is a great web site unlike the media with its censorship and bias reporting, as it allows your voice to be heard. Fortunately, we still have REACH and some public spirit blog sites that enables us to access informations that are kept out from the media,so that we can be more discerning and able to make better judgements on our own with more balance informations available.
Hi All, I strongly recommend this blog site, just in case there are still some people that have yet to fully understand or seeks more information regarding Aware devious CSE program, which you do not hear or hardly hear from the media. In fact it was thru this blog that I am able to get a copy of the CSE trainer manual and also came to know REACH web site.
Go to this site: http://tampinescourt.blogspot.com/
Scroll down to read more on past articles/comments concerning Aware & CSE for more understanding.
By the way, just thinking...if only we can let the 7200 over concern people that petition to MOE to remove the CSE program to be aware of REACH web site,to know that finally their opinions can be heard in REACH and not shut out by the media. REACH is a great web site unlike the media with its censorship and bias reporting, as it allows your voice to be heard. Fortunately, we still have REACH and some public spirit blog sites that enables us to access informations that are kept out from the media,so that we can be more discerning and able to make better judgements on our own with more balance informations available.
Monday, June 22, 2009
Video Interview By CNA With AWARE ON CSE
Dear All
Good if all of you get some ideas on what AWARE said of their CSE and what it's about on CNA.
Scroll to the 2 videos you need to watch on the Talking Point programme below are:
SEXUALITY EDUCATION AND
TEEN PREGNANCY AND ABORTION
Click on the article titled above: "Video Interview By CNA With AWARE ON CSE" and watch the videos between CNA & AWARE" to view. Or you may go to below-mentioned site:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/tp/archive.htm#4
Good if all of you get some ideas on what AWARE said of their CSE and what it's about on CNA.
Scroll to the 2 videos you need to watch on the Talking Point programme below are:
SEXUALITY EDUCATION AND
TEEN PREGNANCY AND ABORTION
Click on the article titled above: "Video Interview By CNA With AWARE ON CSE" and watch the videos between CNA & AWARE" to view. Or you may go to below-mentioned site:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/tp/archive.htm#4
Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders
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Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into
Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders
from: http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexualactivists-
intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removinghomosexuality-
from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
Posted by foospro86 on October 1, 2007
BY RYAN SORBA
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.”
“That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
-Barbara Gittings, Same-gender sex activist
Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric
Association (APA).
Activist Frank Kameny states the movement’s objective clearly, “I feel that the entire homophile movement…is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it…” (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)
In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered.
Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder.
Psychiatry’s authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex.
Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but “scientific opinion” was crucial in the public
attitude.
Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists.
Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes.
‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’
shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked
psychiatrists looked on in disbelief.
‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’” (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)
Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.
On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the
Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions.
In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an ncreasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of
psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.”
(The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)
Same-gender sex activists continued to pressure the APA through 1973. A samegender
sex magazine, The Advocate, talks of “…what happened in 1973…referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APA’s dropping homosexuality from the DSM.” (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40)
As a result of the pressure, in the words of the prominent journalist and same gender
sex activists, Andrew Sullivan, in December of 1973 the APA, “…under intense political pressure…removed homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders…” (Love Undetectable, book by Andrew Sullivan, 1998, p.107) Under this “intense political pressure” the APA’s board of trustees finally caved in to the demands of same-gender sex activists.
Another same-gender sex activist Mark Thompson writes, “Just before the first of the year, the American Psychiatric Association’s board of trustees declared we were no longer sick.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p.97)
After the vote by the American Psychiatric Associations Board of Trustees, some
members of the APA, led by Dr. Charles Socarides called for a full vote by the
APA’s 17,905 members. (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 104)
On April 9, 1974, results of the vote were announced. Only 10,555 of the 17,905
APA members had voted in the election.
The results were as follows:
Total APA members eligible to vote: 17,905
Number of APA members that actually voted: 10,555
Number of members that “Abstained”: 367
Number of “ No” votes-votes to keep “homosexuality” in the DSM as a
mental disorder: 3,810
Number of “Yes” votes-votes to remove “homosexuality” from the DSM as a
mental disorder: 5,854
It should be noted that the number of “Yes” (5,854) made up only 32.7 percent of
the total membership of the APA.
Only slightly less than one-third of the APA’s
membership approved the change.
It should be further noted that the “National Gay Task Force” was able to obtain APA members addresses and the “NGTF” (with-out identifying itself) and they sent creepy letters to all members urging them to vote to remove “homosexuality” from the DSM.
Bruce Voeller, the head of the NGTF admits, “Our costly letter has perhaps made the difference.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 105-106)
Dishonesty and intimidation had won the day for the same-gender sex movement, and when activists publicly claim that this vote was a scientific decision; they hide three years of deceit and intimidation.
In same-gender sex publications, however, activists are remarkably candid about the reality of the vote. For example, Kay Tobin Lahausen, co-author of The Gay Crusaders describes a variety of activism. “We did all sorts of protests…When the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations came out of some meeting and got in hisbig black limousine, I remember going crazy, rocking and beating on the limousine…He had never been besieged by a bunch of homosexuals before. But he had said something that got us going.” (Making History: The Struggle for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights, 1945-1990: an Oral History by Eric Marcus p.216-217) (–Author Marcus has worked as an associate producer for “CBS This Morning” and “Good Morning America.”)
Lahausen’s lover, Barbara Gittings was a well known activist during this time as
well.
Gittings was the first head of the American Library Association Gay Task Force, although she was not a librarian her objective was to bring books advocating the same-gender sex movement to the attention of librarians in hopes of having them included in libraries.
At one American Library Association meeting Gittings set up a same-gender kissing booth, to attract attention to the same-gender sex.
Gittings tells about her activism against the APA. “Besides the ALA, I was also very involved, along with many other people, in efforts to get the American Psychiatric Association… to drop its listing of homosexuality as a mental illness. Psychiatrists were one of the three major groups that had their hands on us. They had a kind of control over our fate, in the eyes of the public, for a long time. “Religion and law were the other two groups that had their hands on us. So, besides being sick, we were sinful and criminal. But the sickness label infected everything that we said and made it difficult for us to gain any credibility for anything we said ourselves. The sickness issue was paramount.” (Making History: The Struggle for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights, 1945-1990: an Oral History by Eric Marcus p.221)
Gittings took place in the disruptive attacks (“saps”) on the APA. She states, “I am
not opposed to sap tactics. In fact, I spearheaded a sap at a psychiatrists meeting
and I’m ready to do it again.” (The Gay Crusaders, p.234) Barbara Gittings recounts, “The 1970 convention in San Francisco was disrupted by a group of feminists and gay men who were enraged by what the psychiatrists were saying about them—and newspapers all around the country carried the story” (The Gay Crusaders, p.216).
The “Gay” Militants, a book about that time, adds details, “On May 14, 1970 psychiatrists became the hunted. An invasion by the coalition of ‘gay’ and woman’s liberationists interrupted the national convention of the American Psychiatric Association in San Francisco to protest the reading of a paper by an Australian psychiatrists on the subject of ‘aversion therapy,’ a system of treatment which attempts to change gay orientation by keying unpleasant sensations (such as electric shocks) to homosexual stimuli.
By the time the meeting was over, the feminists and their gay cohorts were in charge…and the doctors were heckling from the audience.’” (The Gay Militants,
by Donn Teal, p.272-273)
Same-gender sex activists took over the podium and microphones. Then, “Konstantin Berlandt, of Berkeley GLF, paraded through the hall in bright red dress. Paper airplanes sailed down from the balcony. With two papers still unread, the chairman announced adjournment.” (Ibid., p.274) On June 23, 1970 same-gender sex activists disrupted yet another meeting, this time in Chicago, be repeatedly shouting down the main speakers discourse. (Ibid., 275)
Then, in October at a meeting at the University of Southern California, same-gender
sex activists shouted down a speaker and then took over the stage and the microphone. (Ibid., pp.276-280)
Kay Lahusen and Barbera Gittings know what really happened to the APA. In the
book, Making History they are quite open about the reality.
Kay: This was always more of a political decision than a medical decision.
Barbara: It never was a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came
so fast.
After all, it was only three years from the time that feminists and gays first sapped the APA at a behavior therapy session to the time that the Board of
Trustees voted in 1973 to approve removing homosexuality from the list of mental
disorders. It was a political move.” (Making History, p.224)
The APA was thoroughly intimidated. Later in the same year (1974), after the APA’s vote, Gittings was interviewed by a historian of the same-gender sex movement, Jonathan Ned Katz. Gittings brags, “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
(Gay American History, by Jonathan Ned Katz, 1992, p.427. This interview was
taped July 19, 1974). Anytime a scientific organization endorses same-gender sex,
remember Gittings words: “They are running scared.”
Same-gender sex activists have learned that intimidation works and they are never hesitant about using intimidation, psychological manipulation and deceit to reach the goals of their radical agenda.
Later in 1974, same-gender sex activists set their vicious sights on an individual
member of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. David Rueben, who was perhaps the best-known psychologist in the area of human sexuality at the time.
Unbeknownst to Dr. Reuben, same-gender activists were lying in wait outside one
of his lectures, and his physical safety was at risk.
A same-gender sex activist and writer, Leigh Rutledge describes the attack in her
book The Gay Decades, “June 16, A fist fight broke out at a Philadelphia playhouse when ten gay activists interrupt a lecture by Dr. David Rueben and denounce him as ‘a criminal’ for his views on male homosexuality.
One policeman and a protestor are injured in the melee.” (The Gay Decades, by a man that engages in same-gender sex and writer, Leigh W. Rutledge, 1992, p.69)
On that same page, this book tells us that, “The Centers for Disease Control
estimate that gay or bisexual men account for as much as one-third of the syphilis
cases in the U.S.”
Apparently, the American Psychological Association also got the message of intimidation, because they caved in to same-gender sex activists in 1975. In the
book, The Long Road to Freedom the author writes, “January…The American
Psychological Association and American Association for the Advancement of Science echoed the American Psychiatric Association in deeming homosexuality not an illness.” (The Long Road to Freedom, pp.115) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) publishes the scientific journal Science, intimidation by same-gender sex activists was over for them. “Under pressure from gay scientific groups, Science magazine banned anti-gay bias in its staff hiring and advertisement.” (The Long Road to Freedom, pp.214)
Could the AAAS have been thinking about “pressure from gay scientific groups” when they published the poorly done studies by LeVay (“gay” brains) and Hamer (“gay” gene)? Two scientists who protested the LeVay study raise serious questions about AAAS, Science, and same-gender sex activists. “The appearance of LeVay’s paper highlights a serious issue in science public policy.
Should such a study, based on a questionable design, with subjects drawn from a
small, highly selected and non-representative sample, receive the kind of
international attention and credibility that publication in a journal with the stature of Science lends?” (Science, 11-1-91, p.630)
If Dr. LeVay was not able to draw a proper sample and to fulfill other basic
requirements for a scientific study, why did he conduct the study at all?
If the study was not done for scientific reasons it must have been done for political
reasons.
Indeed, LeVay’s study was part of a public relations campaign, (the born “gay” hoax) to make the public believe that individuals were born “gay.”
Science, a supposedly reputable publication, must have been intimidated to risk
their own legitimacy by published such shoddy work. When unethical political
movements dominate science, pushing science in unscientific directions, science
suffers and leads society astray.
One lesson from these facts is unmistakable: every time a scientific group repeats
the same-gender sex movement’s propaganda, you may justifiably suspect that these groups are acting out of ignorance or intimidation.
Another lesson is that same-gender sex activists are so desperate to cover their
deeply dysfunctional condition that they will stop at nothing to hide the facts from
the public.
Award-winning writer and same-gender sex activist Randy Shilts describes the denial among men that have sex with men, about their unhealthy lifestyles causing AIDS to be epidemic among them when he writes, “…the desperation of denial: how when something is so horrible you don’t want to believe it, you want to out it out of your mind and insist it isn’t true, and how you hate the person who says it is.” (And the Band Played On, 1988, p. 182) Desperate denial –this seems to be what drives the deceit, psychological manipulation, and intimidation of both scientific groups and the public.
Here is a link to a video about same-gender sex activist, Frank Kameny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_4S_iQ3fEo
Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into
Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders
from: http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexualactivists-
intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removinghomosexuality-
from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
Posted by foospro86 on October 1, 2007
BY RYAN SORBA
“It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.”
“That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
-Barbara Gittings, Same-gender sex activist
Let us, for a moment, rewind to the year1970. In this year, same-gender sex activists began a program of intimidation aimed at the American Psychiatric
Association (APA).
Activist Frank Kameny states the movement’s objective clearly, “I feel that the entire homophile movement…is going to stand or fall upon the question of whether or not homosexuality is a sickness, and upon our taking a firm stand on it…” (The Gay Crusaders, by Kay Tobin and Randy Wicker, p. 98)
In 1970, psychiatrists generally considered sexual desires toward members of one’s own gender to be disordered.
Karoly Maria Kertbeny’s term, “homosexual” was the official descriptor for those inflicted by this mental-physical disassociative disorder.
Psychiatry’s authoritative voice influenced public opinion, which at the time was negative toward same-gender sex.
Of course, public sexual activity in parks and public restrooms contributed to societies negative views about the types of people that did such things, but “scientific opinion” was crucial in the public
attitude.
Led by radicals like Frank Kameny, same-gender sex activists attacked many psychiatrists publicly, as Newsweek describes, “But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists.
Over the past two years, gay-lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a group of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes.
‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally disordered,’
shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000 shocked
psychiatrists looked on in disbelief.
‘For us, as homosexuals, your profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as human beings, not as patients to be cured!’” (Newsweek, 8-23-71, p.47)
Ironically, at the very moment Franklin Kameny was claiming that same-gender sex was healthy, safe, and natural, a deadly virus was silently passing through communities of men all over the nation as a result of the promiscuous, unhealthy nature of the sex they were having. Only a decade later, thousands of men would be dead or dying, of AIDS.
On June 7, of the following year, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the
Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions.
In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an ncreasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of
psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.”
(The Gay Crusaders p. 130-131)
Same-gender sex activists continued to pressure the APA through 1973. A samegender
sex magazine, The Advocate, talks of “…what happened in 1973…referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APA’s dropping homosexuality from the DSM.” (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40)
As a result of the pressure, in the words of the prominent journalist and same gender
sex activists, Andrew Sullivan, in December of 1973 the APA, “…under intense political pressure…removed homosexuality from its official list of psychiatric disorders…” (Love Undetectable, book by Andrew Sullivan, 1998, p.107) Under this “intense political pressure” the APA’s board of trustees finally caved in to the demands of same-gender sex activists.
Another same-gender sex activist Mark Thompson writes, “Just before the first of the year, the American Psychiatric Association’s board of trustees declared we were no longer sick.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p.97)
After the vote by the American Psychiatric Associations Board of Trustees, some
members of the APA, led by Dr. Charles Socarides called for a full vote by the
APA’s 17,905 members. (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 104)
On April 9, 1974, results of the vote were announced. Only 10,555 of the 17,905
APA members had voted in the election.
The results were as follows:
Total APA members eligible to vote: 17,905
Number of APA members that actually voted: 10,555
Number of members that “Abstained”: 367
Number of “ No” votes-votes to keep “homosexuality” in the DSM as a
mental disorder: 3,810
Number of “Yes” votes-votes to remove “homosexuality” from the DSM as a
mental disorder: 5,854
It should be noted that the number of “Yes” (5,854) made up only 32.7 percent of
the total membership of the APA.
Only slightly less than one-third of the APA’s
membership approved the change.
It should be further noted that the “National Gay Task Force” was able to obtain APA members addresses and the “NGTF” (with-out identifying itself) and they sent creepy letters to all members urging them to vote to remove “homosexuality” from the DSM.
Bruce Voeller, the head of the NGTF admits, “Our costly letter has perhaps made the difference.” (The Long Road to Freedom, ed. by Mark Thompsan1994, p. 105-106)
Dishonesty and intimidation had won the day for the same-gender sex movement, and when activists publicly claim that this vote was a scientific decision; they hide three years of deceit and intimidation.
In same-gender sex publications, however, activists are remarkably candid about the reality of the vote. For example, Kay Tobin Lahausen, co-author of The Gay Crusaders describes a variety of activism. “We did all sorts of protests…When the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations came out of some meeting and got in hisbig black limousine, I remember going crazy, rocking and beating on the limousine…He had never been besieged by a bunch of homosexuals before. But he had said something that got us going.” (Making History: The Struggle for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights, 1945-1990: an Oral History by Eric Marcus p.216-217) (–Author Marcus has worked as an associate producer for “CBS This Morning” and “Good Morning America.”)
Lahausen’s lover, Barbara Gittings was a well known activist during this time as
well.
Gittings was the first head of the American Library Association Gay Task Force, although she was not a librarian her objective was to bring books advocating the same-gender sex movement to the attention of librarians in hopes of having them included in libraries.
At one American Library Association meeting Gittings set up a same-gender kissing booth, to attract attention to the same-gender sex.
Gittings tells about her activism against the APA. “Besides the ALA, I was also very involved, along with many other people, in efforts to get the American Psychiatric Association… to drop its listing of homosexuality as a mental illness. Psychiatrists were one of the three major groups that had their hands on us. They had a kind of control over our fate, in the eyes of the public, for a long time. “Religion and law were the other two groups that had their hands on us. So, besides being sick, we were sinful and criminal. But the sickness label infected everything that we said and made it difficult for us to gain any credibility for anything we said ourselves. The sickness issue was paramount.” (Making History: The Struggle for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights, 1945-1990: an Oral History by Eric Marcus p.221)
Gittings took place in the disruptive attacks (“saps”) on the APA. She states, “I am
not opposed to sap tactics. In fact, I spearheaded a sap at a psychiatrists meeting
and I’m ready to do it again.” (The Gay Crusaders, p.234) Barbara Gittings recounts, “The 1970 convention in San Francisco was disrupted by a group of feminists and gay men who were enraged by what the psychiatrists were saying about them—and newspapers all around the country carried the story” (The Gay Crusaders, p.216).
The “Gay” Militants, a book about that time, adds details, “On May 14, 1970 psychiatrists became the hunted. An invasion by the coalition of ‘gay’ and woman’s liberationists interrupted the national convention of the American Psychiatric Association in San Francisco to protest the reading of a paper by an Australian psychiatrists on the subject of ‘aversion therapy,’ a system of treatment which attempts to change gay orientation by keying unpleasant sensations (such as electric shocks) to homosexual stimuli.
By the time the meeting was over, the feminists and their gay cohorts were in charge…and the doctors were heckling from the audience.’” (The Gay Militants,
by Donn Teal, p.272-273)
Same-gender sex activists took over the podium and microphones. Then, “Konstantin Berlandt, of Berkeley GLF, paraded through the hall in bright red dress. Paper airplanes sailed down from the balcony. With two papers still unread, the chairman announced adjournment.” (Ibid., p.274) On June 23, 1970 same-gender sex activists disrupted yet another meeting, this time in Chicago, be repeatedly shouting down the main speakers discourse. (Ibid., 275)
Then, in October at a meeting at the University of Southern California, same-gender
sex activists shouted down a speaker and then took over the stage and the microphone. (Ibid., pp.276-280)
Kay Lahusen and Barbera Gittings know what really happened to the APA. In the
book, Making History they are quite open about the reality.
Kay: This was always more of a political decision than a medical decision.
Barbara: It never was a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came
so fast.
After all, it was only three years from the time that feminists and gays first sapped the APA at a behavior therapy session to the time that the Board of
Trustees voted in 1973 to approve removing homosexuality from the list of mental
disorders. It was a political move.” (Making History, p.224)
The APA was thoroughly intimidated. Later in the same year (1974), after the APA’s vote, Gittings was interviewed by a historian of the same-gender sex movement, Jonathan Ned Katz. Gittings brags, “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
(Gay American History, by Jonathan Ned Katz, 1992, p.427. This interview was
taped July 19, 1974). Anytime a scientific organization endorses same-gender sex,
remember Gittings words: “They are running scared.”
Same-gender sex activists have learned that intimidation works and they are never hesitant about using intimidation, psychological manipulation and deceit to reach the goals of their radical agenda.
Later in 1974, same-gender sex activists set their vicious sights on an individual
member of the American Psychiatric Association, Dr. David Rueben, who was perhaps the best-known psychologist in the area of human sexuality at the time.
Unbeknownst to Dr. Reuben, same-gender activists were lying in wait outside one
of his lectures, and his physical safety was at risk.
A same-gender sex activist and writer, Leigh Rutledge describes the attack in her
book The Gay Decades, “June 16, A fist fight broke out at a Philadelphia playhouse when ten gay activists interrupt a lecture by Dr. David Rueben and denounce him as ‘a criminal’ for his views on male homosexuality.
One policeman and a protestor are injured in the melee.” (The Gay Decades, by a man that engages in same-gender sex and writer, Leigh W. Rutledge, 1992, p.69)
On that same page, this book tells us that, “The Centers for Disease Control
estimate that gay or bisexual men account for as much as one-third of the syphilis
cases in the U.S.”
Apparently, the American Psychological Association also got the message of intimidation, because they caved in to same-gender sex activists in 1975. In the
book, The Long Road to Freedom the author writes, “January…The American
Psychological Association and American Association for the Advancement of Science echoed the American Psychiatric Association in deeming homosexuality not an illness.” (The Long Road to Freedom, pp.115) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) publishes the scientific journal Science, intimidation by same-gender sex activists was over for them. “Under pressure from gay scientific groups, Science magazine banned anti-gay bias in its staff hiring and advertisement.” (The Long Road to Freedom, pp.214)
Could the AAAS have been thinking about “pressure from gay scientific groups” when they published the poorly done studies by LeVay (“gay” brains) and Hamer (“gay” gene)? Two scientists who protested the LeVay study raise serious questions about AAAS, Science, and same-gender sex activists. “The appearance of LeVay’s paper highlights a serious issue in science public policy.
Should such a study, based on a questionable design, with subjects drawn from a
small, highly selected and non-representative sample, receive the kind of
international attention and credibility that publication in a journal with the stature of Science lends?” (Science, 11-1-91, p.630)
If Dr. LeVay was not able to draw a proper sample and to fulfill other basic
requirements for a scientific study, why did he conduct the study at all?
If the study was not done for scientific reasons it must have been done for political
reasons.
Indeed, LeVay’s study was part of a public relations campaign, (the born “gay” hoax) to make the public believe that individuals were born “gay.”
Science, a supposedly reputable publication, must have been intimidated to risk
their own legitimacy by published such shoddy work. When unethical political
movements dominate science, pushing science in unscientific directions, science
suffers and leads society astray.
One lesson from these facts is unmistakable: every time a scientific group repeats
the same-gender sex movement’s propaganda, you may justifiably suspect that these groups are acting out of ignorance or intimidation.
Another lesson is that same-gender sex activists are so desperate to cover their
deeply dysfunctional condition that they will stop at nothing to hide the facts from
the public.
Award-winning writer and same-gender sex activist Randy Shilts describes the denial among men that have sex with men, about their unhealthy lifestyles causing AIDS to be epidemic among them when he writes, “…the desperation of denial: how when something is so horrible you don’t want to believe it, you want to out it out of your mind and insist it isn’t true, and how you hate the person who says it is.” (And the Band Played On, 1988, p. 182) Desperate denial –this seems to be what drives the deceit, psychological manipulation, and intimidation of both scientific groups and the public.
Here is a link to a video about same-gender sex activist, Frank Kameny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_4S_iQ3fEo
Sunday, June 21, 2009
THINK AGAIN - 21 Jun 09 , 15:21 PM
Those who read ST article “COMING OUT IN CHINA”. Do you realize how the media sensationalized the issue as if there’s such a large majority that’s beginning to accept homosexual acts?
Quote from ST: “”In a survey of 400 people across Chinese cities last year, sociologist Li Yinhe, of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, found what she termed a 'quite high' level of tolerance of gays - 'possibly because China has no widely held religion and hence no religion-based opposition to homosexuality like in the West', she wrote on her blog””Unquote.
MY VIEW: China has over 1.3 BILLION people. The survey is from only 400 people across the Chinese cities. Yet they actually quote this sociologist as saying that this is a “quite high” level of tolerance? 400 surveyed out of 1.30 BILLION PEOPLE is “quite high”?
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Asia/China/Story/STIStory_392792.html?sunwMethod=GET
June 20, 2009
MEMO FROM BEIJING
'Coming out' in China By Sim Chi Yin, China Correspondent
While homosexuality is still largely a social taboo, Chinese society is slowly opening up .
A crowd of 200 gay, straight, Chinese and expatriate guests gathered ..at the Songzhuang Art District on the city's outskirts for what organisers quietly hailed as a breakthrough for gays in China, where homosexuality was delisted as a 'mental illness' only in 2001.. Unquote
MY VIEW: The media loves to say homosexuality was delisted as a mental disorder. But they fail to report another side of it: Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders.
Read it on:
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
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MY VIEW: The media loves to say homosexuality was delisted as a mental disorder. But they fail to report another side of it: Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders.
Read it on:
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
Quote from ST: “”In a survey of 400 people across Chinese cities last year, sociologist Li Yinhe, of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, found what she termed a 'quite high' level of tolerance of gays - 'possibly because China has no widely held religion and hence no religion-based opposition to homosexuality like in the West', she wrote on her blog””Unquote.
MY VIEW: China has over 1.3 BILLION people. The survey is from only 400 people across the Chinese cities. Yet they actually quote this sociologist as saying that this is a “quite high” level of tolerance? 400 surveyed out of 1.30 BILLION PEOPLE is “quite high”?
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http://www.straitstimes.com/Asia/China/Story/STIStory_392792.html?sunwMethod=GET
June 20, 2009
MEMO FROM BEIJING
'Coming out' in China By Sim Chi Yin, China Correspondent
While homosexuality is still largely a social taboo, Chinese society is slowly opening up .
A crowd of 200 gay, straight, Chinese and expatriate guests gathered ..at the Songzhuang Art District on the city's outskirts for what organisers quietly hailed as a breakthrough for gays in China, where homosexuality was delisted as a 'mental illness' only in 2001.. Unquote
MY VIEW: The media loves to say homosexuality was delisted as a mental disorder. But they fail to report another side of it: Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders.
Read it on:
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
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MY VIEW: The media loves to say homosexuality was delisted as a mental disorder. But they fail to report another side of it: Homosexual Activists Intimidate American Psychiatric Association into Removing Homosexuality from List of Disorders.
Read it on:
http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/homosexual-activists-intimidate-american-psychiatric-association-into-removing-homosexuality-from-list-of-disorders/#more-20
LEE - 21 Jun 09 , 14:33 PM
For "yeah right" who obviously has no idea about what I spoke about on the site Journalism.sg. You said "boy another anonymous person in the journalism.sg article."
Here is some background about the people on their journalism site. Its good that there are still a remnant out there who share the same views as those on this thread regarding media coverage of Aware saga.
http://journalism.sg/perspectives/
Editor Cherian George (cherian@journalism.sg) Cherian is an assistant professor, Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore.
The research and writing team comprises journalism students at the Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore:
This site was launched in June 2007 to serve anyone interested in the news media in Singapore, whether a practising journalist, researcher, teacher, student, concerned citizen, media activist or policy maker. To facilitate dialogue among these various constituencies, the articles and links published here are deliberately diverse in their orientations. They range from activists' critiques, academic analyses and professionals' perspectives to government officials' points of view.
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Seems the anonymous one hiding is the writer posting under "Yeah right" and not the ones on journalissm.sg
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Here is some background about the people on their journalism site. Its good that there are still a remnant out there who share the same views as those on this thread regarding media coverage of Aware saga.
http://journalism.sg/perspectives/
Editor Cherian George (cherian@journalism.sg) Cherian is an assistant professor, Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore.
The research and writing team comprises journalism students at the Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore:
This site was launched in June 2007 to serve anyone interested in the news media in Singapore, whether a practising journalist, researcher, teacher, student, concerned citizen, media activist or policy maker. To facilitate dialogue among these various constituencies, the articles and links published here are deliberately diverse in their orientations. They range from activists' critiques, academic analyses and professionals' perspectives to government officials' points of view.
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Seems the anonymous one hiding is the writer posting under "Yeah right" and not the ones on journalissm.sg
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LEE - 21 Jun 09 , 14:19 PM
Thank you "good seed", that was very assuring.
To those who may be discouraged or wonder why MICA or the Govt doesnt seem to be doing anything about the pro gay activists stand by our media.
Have faith that if you are writing to our leaders, you are being heard. It could be that the Govt or MICA is "silent" because they dont want to give the LGBT bullies in the West the smugness of saying ST and company are puppets of the Govt. If the Govt comes out to publicly shame the Press and Media, it may backfire.
My advice is continue doing what we have been doing, let our voices be heard loud and clear and dont fret about ST and their arrogance. Let the public and leaders know the truth and inform them about what the media will not write about. That's important than waiting for apologies that wont come.
To those who may be discouraged or wonder why MICA or the Govt doesnt seem to be doing anything about the pro gay activists stand by our media.
Have faith that if you are writing to our leaders, you are being heard. It could be that the Govt or MICA is "silent" because they dont want to give the LGBT bullies in the West the smugness of saying ST and company are puppets of the Govt. If the Govt comes out to publicly shame the Press and Media, it may backfire.
My advice is continue doing what we have been doing, let our voices be heard loud and clear and dont fret about ST and their arrogance. Let the public and leaders know the truth and inform them about what the media will not write about. That's important than waiting for apologies that wont come.
a good seed 21 Jun 09 , 13:34 PM
"to their US counterpart the Aware saga."
Credit must be given to our PM when he purported to have replied ".. what Josie and her party did (winning the Aware election) was perfectly legal or something to that effect)..".
We are happy to have our PM to stand up to those LGBTs bully boys from the States.
Let us all use the internet with sound intelligence to ferret out the pro-gay activists who are trying their best to rail-road their LGBTs group into Parliament: deny them all; people like MPs Charles Chong, Hri Kumar Nair and more. Vote them OUT OF PARLIAMENT BEFORE THEIR KIND TURN SINGAPORE INTO THEIR LITTLE AMERICA - DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM. SHOW THEM THE EXIT AT GE2010/2011.
EVERY CONCERNERD PARENTS MUST STAY PRO-ACTIVE ON ALL WAVELENGTHS ALL THE TIME - English, Chinese, Malay, Indian and others; RISE UP TOGETHER WITH THE GOOD SALTS IN PARLIAMENT AND DENY THESE SOULESS INDIVIDUALS (reminds me of that character 'Cracken' in the 'pirate movie' the creature with waiving tentacles; waiting to pull evertbody it accosted into the watery depths of its souless world) FROM TURNING SINGAPORE INTO A LGBTs SOULESS SOCIETY.
YOUR FAITH WILL SAVE THE CHILDREN, OUR FUTURE LEADERS OF SINGAPORE.
Credit must be given to our PM when he purported to have replied ".. what Josie and her party did (winning the Aware election) was perfectly legal or something to that effect)..".
We are happy to have our PM to stand up to those LGBTs bully boys from the States.
Let us all use the internet with sound intelligence to ferret out the pro-gay activists who are trying their best to rail-road their LGBTs group into Parliament: deny them all; people like MPs Charles Chong, Hri Kumar Nair and more. Vote them OUT OF PARLIAMENT BEFORE THEIR KIND TURN SINGAPORE INTO THEIR LITTLE AMERICA - DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM. SHOW THEM THE EXIT AT GE2010/2011.
EVERY CONCERNERD PARENTS MUST STAY PRO-ACTIVE ON ALL WAVELENGTHS ALL THE TIME - English, Chinese, Malay, Indian and others; RISE UP TOGETHER WITH THE GOOD SALTS IN PARLIAMENT AND DENY THESE SOULESS INDIVIDUALS (reminds me of that character 'Cracken' in the 'pirate movie' the creature with waiving tentacles; waiting to pull evertbody it accosted into the watery depths of its souless world) FROM TURNING SINGAPORE INTO A LGBTs SOULESS SOCIETY.
YOUR FAITH WILL SAVE THE CHILDREN, OUR FUTURE LEADERS OF SINGAPORE.
a good seed - 21 Jun 09 , 13:08 PM
limited its present abilities by the
limitations of its past.
Like the elephants, how many of us go through life
holding onto a belief that we cannot do something
simply because we failed at it once before? How
many of us refuse to attempt something new and
challenging because of our so called MINDSET?
Your attempt may fail, but never fail to make
attempt............................
And CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT THE FALSE BOUNDARIES
LIMITATIONS CREATED BY THE PAST.............."
ST and CNA are now tools of the LGBTs and their activists/lobbyists. They blame Josie and her group of good Christians and played the religious issue (when none exists).
On CNA's primetime news a fortnight ago (to be exact on Tuesday, 2 June 2009), the pair of newsreaders when exchanging small talk on US President Obama's pending vivit later that day to the Saudi kingdom showed an interview with a Saudi gentleman who said ".. it is not what he (Obama) says but what he does (that matters).." Immediately, a picture of 'Obama' in the form of an Indonesian orang utan was shown to viewers swinging across a tree-top. Are these newsmen trying to embrass our PM and his good people by insulting the US President and the American people?
Like ST, CNA saw it fit not to apologise to the US President and the American people for their backers and the very same group now in control of many of the states in US.
How many of us were aware (more likely unaware) that when our PM H S Lee visited US recently, during a meeting of US businessmen, sourcing for new enterprise and business opportunities for these would be businessmen in Singapore, the LGBTs and their activists during question and answer, quizzed our PM on why his government allowed the "hijacking" (same lingo being used here by ST and CNA) by Josie and her group of Aware then. This clearly shows the immense power of the LGBTs in the States.
Their Singapore's side must have relayed to the US counterpart of the Aware
limitations of its past.
Like the elephants, how many of us go through life
holding onto a belief that we cannot do something
simply because we failed at it once before? How
many of us refuse to attempt something new and
challenging because of our so called MINDSET?
Your attempt may fail, but never fail to make
attempt............................
And CHOOSE NOT TO ACCEPT THE FALSE BOUNDARIES
LIMITATIONS CREATED BY THE PAST.............."
ST and CNA are now tools of the LGBTs and their activists/lobbyists. They blame Josie and her group of good Christians and played the religious issue (when none exists).
On CNA's primetime news a fortnight ago (to be exact on Tuesday, 2 June 2009), the pair of newsreaders when exchanging small talk on US President Obama's pending vivit later that day to the Saudi kingdom showed an interview with a Saudi gentleman who said ".. it is not what he (Obama) says but what he does (that matters).." Immediately, a picture of 'Obama' in the form of an Indonesian orang utan was shown to viewers swinging across a tree-top. Are these newsmen trying to embrass our PM and his good people by insulting the US President and the American people?
Like ST, CNA saw it fit not to apologise to the US President and the American people for their backers and the very same group now in control of many of the states in US.
How many of us were aware (more likely unaware) that when our PM H S Lee visited US recently, during a meeting of US businessmen, sourcing for new enterprise and business opportunities for these would be businessmen in Singapore, the LGBTs and their activists during question and answer, quizzed our PM on why his government allowed the "hijacking" (same lingo being used here by ST and CNA) by Josie and her group of Aware then. This clearly shows the immense power of the LGBTs in the States.
Their Singapore's side must have relayed to the US counterpart of the Aware
a good seed - 21 Jun 09 , 12:40 PM
Bouquets for you u guys "Lee"; "Think Again" "Too Concerned to Remain Silent Anymore"; "Truth"; and many many other concerned parents and bloggers out there.
I am so heartened to know we have a big and strong voice to support our PM and his good men and women in Parliament in all things good that they do for the welfare of all Singaporeans. At times the things they do and say must seemed hurtful to us 'mere mortals' so said one of the current MP and what he said was prominently carried out in the Straits Times(ST) and ChannelNewsAsia (CNA).
This particular MP (an active lobbyists for the LGBTs) is trying to create a wedge between the Government and us citizens, hoping to divide our Government and its citizens.
The following article aptly entitled IT'S CALLED MINDSET is dedicated to each and every concerned parents who cares too much for their loved ones and the nation to allow such pro-gay activist/lobbyist to gain a foothold into Parliament:
IT'S CALLED MINDSET
"As my friend was passing the elephants, he suddenly
stopped, confused by the fact that these huge
creatures were being held by only a rope tied
to their legs. It was obvious that the elephants
could, at anytime, break away from the ropes they
were tied to but for some reason, they did not.
My friend saw a trainer nearby and asked why these
beautiful, magnificent animals just stood there and
made no attempt to get away.
"Well", the trainer said, "when they were young
and much smaller we used the same rope to tie
them and at that age, it's enough to hold them.
As they grow up, they are conditioned to believe
they cannot break away. They believe the rope
can still hold them, so they never try to break
free."
My friend was amazed. These animals could at
any time break free from their bondage but
because they believed they couldn't, they
were stuck right there they were.
The powerful and gigantic creature has
I am so heartened to know we have a big and strong voice to support our PM and his good men and women in Parliament in all things good that they do for the welfare of all Singaporeans. At times the things they do and say must seemed hurtful to us 'mere mortals' so said one of the current MP and what he said was prominently carried out in the Straits Times(ST) and ChannelNewsAsia (CNA).
This particular MP (an active lobbyists for the LGBTs) is trying to create a wedge between the Government and us citizens, hoping to divide our Government and its citizens.
The following article aptly entitled IT'S CALLED MINDSET is dedicated to each and every concerned parents who cares too much for their loved ones and the nation to allow such pro-gay activist/lobbyist to gain a foothold into Parliament:
IT'S CALLED MINDSET
"As my friend was passing the elephants, he suddenly
stopped, confused by the fact that these huge
creatures were being held by only a rope tied
to their legs. It was obvious that the elephants
could, at anytime, break away from the ropes they
were tied to but for some reason, they did not.
My friend saw a trainer nearby and asked why these
beautiful, magnificent animals just stood there and
made no attempt to get away.
"Well", the trainer said, "when they were young
and much smaller we used the same rope to tie
them and at that age, it's enough to hold them.
As they grow up, they are conditioned to believe
they cannot break away. They believe the rope
can still hold them, so they never try to break
free."
My friend was amazed. These animals could at
any time break free from their bondage but
because they believed they couldn't, they
were stuck right there they were.
The powerful and gigantic creature has
LEE - 21 Jun 09 , 11:08 AM
Dear "Too Concerned to remain silent"
You have done a lot of work by extracting certain portions of Mike Haley's book. Thank you very much for the effort. I am sure many have found it helpful.
May I offer some suggestions?
1) You can transport all your posts on this book to REMARKS BY EDUCATION MINISTER ON SEXUALITY PROGRAMME. Then whatever NEW extracts you wish to type can be continued from there.
2) The information you have is good for MOE and the Education Ministry so having it on their thread is good. Best to do it asap so Reach can feedback to them.
3) You have covered quite extensively from your current pages on this thread on Mike Haley. The information was useful. Perhaps you can just put a latest comment for others to read the rest of it on the REMARKS BY EDUCATION MINISTER thread.
4) I hope others out there will take the initiative to check with the bookstores and ask them to order the book if it's not available. Please share if any of you managed to find it from any bookstores here. They will order it for you if you request esp Borders.
You can also can be order direct through the Net via Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Frequently-Asked-Questions-About-Homosexuality/dp/0736914706
I found out that a friend has it and will be borrowing it to read.
5) Each one of us must continue to be pro-active, take the initiative and steps to do what is needed if you are interested in the contents of the book. That way, "Too Concerned to remain silent" doesnt have to do so much work. I understand what you mean about being tired. This is time consuming but its to stem the tide of moral decay.
6) Do take note of copyright laws when extracting as it should only be a small portion of the book.
Regards
censorship rules
You have done a lot of work by extracting certain portions of Mike Haley's book. Thank you very much for the effort. I am sure many have found it helpful.
May I offer some suggestions?
1) You can transport all your posts on this book to REMARKS BY EDUCATION MINISTER ON SEXUALITY PROGRAMME. Then whatever NEW extracts you wish to type can be continued from there.
2) The information you have is good for MOE and the Education Ministry so having it on their thread is good. Best to do it asap so Reach can feedback to them.
3) You have covered quite extensively from your current pages on this thread on Mike Haley. The information was useful. Perhaps you can just put a latest comment for others to read the rest of it on the REMARKS BY EDUCATION MINISTER thread.
4) I hope others out there will take the initiative to check with the bookstores and ask them to order the book if it's not available. Please share if any of you managed to find it from any bookstores here. They will order it for you if you request esp Borders.
You can also can be order direct through the Net via Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Frequently-Asked-Questions-About-Homosexuality/dp/0736914706
I found out that a friend has it and will be borrowing it to read.
5) Each one of us must continue to be pro-active, take the initiative and steps to do what is needed if you are interested in the contents of the book. That way, "Too Concerned to remain silent" doesnt have to do so much work. I understand what you mean about being tired. This is time consuming but its to stem the tide of moral decay.
6) Do take note of copyright laws when extracting as it should only be a small portion of the book.
Regards
censorship rules
??? - 21 Jun 09 , 10:00 AM
Dear "You guys go ahead to new "site" on 21 Jun 09 , 08:39 AM
Reach only censors if you have posted comments that have been inflammatory, crude. If you have been following others in that style, then it may be removed. If you post what is relevant, there should be no reason for Reach to censor it. I am also a little puzzled with your comments.
Reach only censors if you have posted comments that have been inflammatory, crude. If you have been following others in that style, then it may be removed. If you post what is relevant, there should be no reason for Reach to censor it. I am also a little puzzled with your comments.
Noor's Comment To REACH - FYI
21 Jun 09 , 09:53 AM
Until we hear what MICA has to say about comments on this thread, surely this thread should not be archived?
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http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/YourDiscussionCorner/tabid/117/ptid/414/page/4/totrecs/31/threadid/1802/forumtype/posts/Default.aspx
Noor ""said :
I am new to REACH having started only in May 2009. It is disconcerting for users to give feedback without direct replies from the relevant goverment agencies. I see not much progress on this matter since Feb 2009
To raise the level of discourse and the volume of viewership of REACH portal, govt must go online and reply say by 3 days. Otherwise netizens are no different from people who gather at coffeshop - ie REACH will be like an online coffeshop if there is no participation from govt""
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Reply from Reach:
Dear Noor (I am Guest),
Thank you for your comments. With regard to responses from government agencies, you may be pleased to know that various agencies have in fact, responded on our discussion forum. The links to some of these responses are as follows:
CPF – Li / HDB - Wet Market Bid/ PUB - PUB rates went up again ? /NEA – PUB rates went up again ? / MOE- How can MOE work with parents on sex education?
NPARKS - Islandwide Park Connectors - to include bicycles ?
We agree with your observation that communication needs to be two-way. In this regard, please be assured that the Government is committed to two-way e-engagement, and REACH will, together with MICA, continue to work with Government ministries and agencies on e-engagement. Over time, we are confident we will see more Ministries and agencies e-engaging and responding on the REACH website.
We will nevertheless, bear your concerns and comments in mind as we seek to continue to improve on our e-engagement efforts. Thank you once again for your comments and we look forward to your continued participation on the REACH forums."
Regards, Ling (REACH Admin)
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So please keep this thread active until there is truly objectivity in media coverage.
No response?
Until we hear what MICA has to say about comments on this thread, surely this thread should not be archived?
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http://app.reach.gov.sg/reach/YourSay/YourDiscussionCorner/tabid/117/ptid/414/page/4/totrecs/31/threadid/1802/forumtype/posts/Default.aspx
Noor ""said :
I am new to REACH having started only in May 2009. It is disconcerting for users to give feedback without direct replies from the relevant goverment agencies. I see not much progress on this matter since Feb 2009
To raise the level of discourse and the volume of viewership of REACH portal, govt must go online and reply say by 3 days. Otherwise netizens are no different from people who gather at coffeshop - ie REACH will be like an online coffeshop if there is no participation from govt""
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Reply from Reach:
Dear Noor (I am Guest),
Thank you for your comments. With regard to responses from government agencies, you may be pleased to know that various agencies have in fact, responded on our discussion forum. The links to some of these responses are as follows:
CPF – Li / HDB - Wet Market Bid/ PUB - PUB rates went up again ? /NEA – PUB rates went up again ? / MOE- How can MOE work with parents on sex education?
NPARKS - Islandwide Park Connectors - to include bicycles ?
We agree with your observation that communication needs to be two-way. In this regard, please be assured that the Government is committed to two-way e-engagement, and REACH will, together with MICA, continue to work with Government ministries and agencies on e-engagement. Over time, we are confident we will see more Ministries and agencies e-engaging and responding on the REACH website.
We will nevertheless, bear your concerns and comments in mind as we seek to continue to improve on our e-engagement efforts. Thank you once again for your comments and we look forward to your continued participation on the REACH forums."
Regards, Ling (REACH Admin)
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So please keep this thread active until there is truly objectivity in media coverage.
No response?
Which site? 21 Jun 09 , 08:58 AM
Which site?
21 Jun 09 , 08:58 AM
What new "site" are you talking about?? You mean the Reach Discussion thread on 'JOURNALIST MUST BE IMPARTIAL"?
There is nothing wrong with sharing certain truths if it is relevant. Just because they happen to be "christian" doesnt mean it cannot be shared. As long as its not causing religious hatred. Your comment is like saying only so called liberals can state their views because its "secular".
Not sure where you are coming from because your comments are rather confusing and contradictory.
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You guys go ahead to new "site", I not that capable.
21 Jun 09 , 08:39 AM
You guys go ahead to new "site", I not that capable. I tried to follow some of the postings and post some of my view points along that style, but Reach admin censored and removed them, guess they weren't good enough. It is ok, not that I am unhappy about the censorship, guess following the style of others is a repetition of sorts, that's why such comments have been removed. Best to leave it to more capable people to band together and protect our values for our future. Will support in spirit. By the way, just feel that some of those christian testimonies are more appropriate on your own christian website, which has been mentioned below, wouldn't repeat the url as it may be misunderstood as promoting that url. Thought best to write in secular way to convince people of the world then using religion to talk down to people. Oh yes, forgot to mention, very unhappy with Straits Times way of reporting recently, seems that the views and articles of one side is not reflected in equal proportions to other side.
21 Jun 09 , 08:58 AM
What new "site" are you talking about?? You mean the Reach Discussion thread on 'JOURNALIST MUST BE IMPARTIAL"?
There is nothing wrong with sharing certain truths if it is relevant. Just because they happen to be "christian" doesnt mean it cannot be shared. As long as its not causing religious hatred. Your comment is like saying only so called liberals can state their views because its "secular".
Not sure where you are coming from because your comments are rather confusing and contradictory.
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You guys go ahead to new "site", I not that capable.
21 Jun 09 , 08:39 AM
You guys go ahead to new "site", I not that capable. I tried to follow some of the postings and post some of my view points along that style, but Reach admin censored and removed them, guess they weren't good enough. It is ok, not that I am unhappy about the censorship, guess following the style of others is a repetition of sorts, that's why such comments have been removed. Best to leave it to more capable people to band together and protect our values for our future. Will support in spirit. By the way, just feel that some of those christian testimonies are more appropriate on your own christian website, which has been mentioned below, wouldn't repeat the url as it may be misunderstood as promoting that url. Thought best to write in secular way to convince people of the world then using religion to talk down to people. Oh yes, forgot to mention, very unhappy with Straits Times way of reporting recently, seems that the views and articles of one side is not reflected in equal proportions to other side.
NARROW AND WIDE - 21 Jun 09 , 08:06 AM
Dear "Terminator",
Exactly!! Send your posting directly to Reach because its a good reason why this thread should not be archived.
Agree with what you said:
"I wonder why the liberals in our media can mock the conservatives so openly and yet when the conservatives try to voice their concerns and opinions the government says that we need to be more tolerant. Haven't the conservatives been very tolerant? Why are the liberals getting away with all these free for all statements in the press. T
The press always features articles that are pro-liberals and hardly articles that promote the conservatives. "
Exactly!! Send your posting directly to Reach because its a good reason why this thread should not be archived.
Agree with what you said:
"I wonder why the liberals in our media can mock the conservatives so openly and yet when the conservatives try to voice their concerns and opinions the government says that we need to be more tolerant. Haven't the conservatives been very tolerant? Why are the liberals getting away with all these free for all statements in the press. T
The press always features articles that are pro-liberals and hardly articles that promote the conservatives. "
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