REACH BLOG - 29 Jun 09 , 22:40 PM

Silent Majority

“CW”,

Although you posted your comments to LEE, I have some very strong views of my own and decided to comment on what you said. I hope others will follow suit since this is public space."

In your postings on 28 Jun 09 , 14:44 PM you were asked:

1) What are your PERSONAL views about constant acts of anal sex in homosexuality?
You replied: “I don’t have a personal view or stand on it as I have not been a participant in anal sex. However, I think the decision is private to the individuals. Mind you, anal sex is not restrictive to homosexuality. Heterosexuals can choose to do so. So long as both are consenting adults, and both register the risks and are willing to be responsible for their actions, I think it is ok.

Answer:
For a person who showed so much conviction about LBGT, it is unlike you to have no personal view or stand. It’s like telling another adult, I will have to participate in killing a person before I make a stand on my personal views.

You either agree it is “okay” or “not okay” to have “anal sex”. You are conveniently sitting on the fence with your reply.

Since you brought up about “Consenting”, Homosexuality has always been around Asian culture. Nobody in this thread denies that. NO issue here.

You also said “Anal sex, is a private act, thus everybody will come to their own decision on it. I will not put it to the subject of morality, as everybody will have different degrees of belief and will make their own decisions on the matter.”

Answer:
Ha! CW! I completely agree with you that it is private, as Asian society in general has always seen it that way for hundreds of years. Good that you agree it is a PRIVATE ACT. Also, NO issue here.

The core issue is whether society in general agrees with it and they do NOT. Society in general frowns upon it. But, unfortunately, most in society are passive on-lookers. As long as LBGT do not cross the line. That is fine with society. No argument from you can support it.

Even in USA, there is a swelling of public opinion against it. The Europeans, they are the root of many ills in this world. Mostly, faults of old world politics and still playing the same game.

INDEED, it IS All About MORALITY. No society can survive without upholding their morality. That is why when young, your parents teach you not to kill etc. Didn’t you learnt of ancient Roman society where Morality degenerated into permissive actions like debauchery, anal sex, etc, Society will fail in the long run.

Imagine, with your meaning of freedom of choice, and independence of action, next you’ll see the father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter.

This is individual independence you are proscribing as your comments goes. That is what will happen when society is bereft of a set of Moral values/ Core values to uphold. As in Holland, you can’t stop your daughter from becoming a prostitute.

Truly, do you think that “daughter” being an individual, wants to be a prostitute? And if you try me with “Freedom of choice” that means you are just arguing for the sake of arguing. A typical mantra of those who supports LBGT. I have worked with them and I tell you this, none wants to be one but only due to economic necessities.

You are clearly either a consenting partner or a pro-LBGT. This is all wayang kulit from you.

2) When asked whether you thought anal sex is unhealthy. You said “On whether it is unhealthy? I know from fact that it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. However, that is applicable to those who have multiple sexual partners or those come in contact with HIV positive partners. If the act is between a monogamous and committed couple, the risks can be mitigated.”

Answer:
Good that you agree it carries a larger risk of contracting HIV. But, that’s the point. It boils down to Morality.

If it is to be based on the individual rights of a person/ couple as is your stand in all your comments, to do it freely and without fear or favour, where is the “Accountability” to the majority. Individual rights in Asian society entails some responsibility towards the majority. What you are constantly espousing in your “musings” is western concepts which are now undeniably slowly being overturned by a more vocal majority in their midst.

It’s a fallacy on your part if you deny that the minority in the West has been using all sorts of leverages and lobbying and discreet actions to get the recognition that they wanted, but, at what cost. Promiscuity, loose morals? Is that the way you want Singapore to go? Whatever your arguments you proffer will not hold water but only a “wayang kulit” because to you, as long as at the end of the day, your actions meets your aims.

3) When asked whether you felt anal sex is natural. You said “On whether it is natural? The word natural would, for me, draw a relation to reproduction. In this case, anal sex is not reproductive hence unnatural. However, I would not use “unnatural” to slant the term “anal sex” as the act is practiced in private. It serves no purpose unless the discussion was about reproduction.”

Answer:
Hello, if “CW” you still can’t see from the forest to the trees that “anal sex” is unnatural, you are either unnatural or just want to win the argument regardless of the natural order. There is no other interpretation or to put it in local jargon, “play backside”. Then, again, what is stopping the Father “do” the son, mother “do” the son, father “do” the daughter. That’s natural? No need to “slant” the term.

Let’s not continue playing with words here. You are evading a direct answer and the issue. Your anus was not meant for sex but for relieving yourself. Again you are playing with words, evading all the core issues and divert from answering directly.

My question to you : Is having “anal sex” natural? Do you think having your anus penetrated on a regular basis is natural? Don’t use the excuse that you don’t indulge in anal sex so you can comment. I don’t need to eat excrement to tell you it tastes bad.

4) “CW”, On being asked if you have watched the testimony of Christopher and Victor on http://christopheryuanvideo.blogspot.com/
You said : ”Not yet, but will do. Need Time. “

Answer:
If you are as impartial as what you try to portray, you would have seen it long time ago. Surprised you haven’t even watched it. If that’s the case, you really, really have lost the moral ground as your arguments are not impartial but evasive and suggestive towards pro-LBGT activism. Or perhaps you come from a background where no one taught you about morals and so this word is alien to you.

5) “CW”, you were asked if “Do you agree that Aware's CSE programme should have been suspended?”

You said: “…Yes, I believe it should be suspended. However, once the programme is refined to better reflect the necessary tones of society, it can request for the suspension to be lifted (subject to vetting and approval). ….I am not interested in the trainers’ manual, I am more interested in what was taught.”

Answer:
AWARE has rightly lost it’s moral authority by still standing by its position and no manner of ‘cosmetic’ application is going to change people’s mindset.

You are kidding if you think that the “trainer’s manual” is not important. It guides the “instructor” in formulating answers to the ‘students”. There have been comments by parents that said that the “instructors” themselves were pushing the line.

You should know that, recently, at a blogsite, a video clearly showed one of your AWARE “overseas” instructors trying to push their LBGT interpretations down the throat of a parent who was not convinced at all. Again, don’t tell me that you did not watch it. Then, how are you going to debate if you don’t watch something that you do not agree with. Again “wayang kulit”

Let’s talk about now. It’s very fine and noble that MOE should instruct the school counselors to do more but this is where they HAVE done so by “Outsourcing” them. But, you and AWARE and cohorts made slight of and took advantage of the people’s sincerity, ignorance, passivity and trust.

You don’t teach our “Young” that “anal sex” is normal and natural. It should not even be in the CSE. Unfortunately, CSE was taken directly from SIECUS, an organization from the USA or other, which are pro-LBGT as is AWARE (whom have stated their stance on this very clearly)

This is where the pro-LBGT took advantage to inveigle their agenda into the CSE to promulgate their views by trying to influence our “Children” at a very young age.
It is due to militant, aggressive and discreet actions such as by AWARE and it’s cohorts that brought out the “awareness” of the gravity of the danger to our young on how much MINORITY activism has secreted and permeated itself into our society through the Arts, Media, so-called NGOs & in Govt.

YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED!!! WOLF IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING!!!